Ποιο είναι το καλύτερο δίκτυο κινητής τηλεφωνίας; (No2)

[cmvr]

Από εχθές η Cosmote είχε πρόβλημα με την κακοκαιρία σε κάποιους σταθμούς σε Καβάλα,  Ξάνθη (νότια  συνεγκατάσταση με τις άλλες δυο) και Κομοτηνή ανατολικά. Δεν ξέρω αν επανήλθαν ακόμα. Αύριο αν με ενημερώσει ο συνεργάτης της περιοχής θα σας πω. Δεν θέλω να τον ενοχλήσω τοσο αργά σαββατιάτικα.

Μονο την 103387 συγκράτησα στην Ξάνθη που έπεσε εντελώς. Sorry Παντελή μην βαράς 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 

7 minutes ago, MitsosDaBest13 said:

Εγώ το αντίθετο θα έλεγα πάντως. Με εξαίρεση κυρίως τα Νότια Προάστια και τον Πειραιά, όπου η Vodafone είναι αρκετά καλή, σε πολλές άλλες περιοχές της Αττικής θεωρώ καλύτερη τη Nova. Αν και τον τελευταίο χρόνο, η Vodafone έχει μειώσει τη διαφορά και στις προβληματικές περιοχές της. 

Υ.Γ. Cosmote απλά μόνη της πρώτη, αν και σε συγκεκριμένα σημεία έχει και αυτή κάποια προβλήματα.

Ο καθής κινείται και βλέπει. Σε αυτό που θα συμφωνήσω μαζί σου 1000% είναι ότι παίζει μπαλίτσα η Cosmote μόνη της. 

Edited December 16, 2023 by cmvr

[doganos]

Δεν ξέρω αν έχει ξανά μπει αλλά πάει προς πουλημα η United?

 

Serbian media: United Group is for sale, BC Partners is frantically looking for a buyer for the indebted owner of Vivacom

 

Investment fund BC Partners wants to get rid of Dragan Šolak and sell its share in United Group, but cannot find a buyer, reported Serbian media Politika.rs, Informer.rs, Telegraf Business and others. Most worrying for the fund is the behavior of the Serbian Sholak, which is described in business circles as "extreme". The London-based fund bought a stake in United Group from the US group KKR in 2019 for 2.56 billion euros, which has held a stake in the group since March 2014.

 

BC Partners' five-year holding cycle in United Group is coming to an end, and this is the usual "exit" period for the investment. According to media sources, a buyer was supposed to be found as early as December of this year, but this did not happen because "no one wants to do business with Sholak." The main reason is the group's liabilities, which in 2022 have grown to 7.13 billion euros, the media reported, citing the Greek Capital.gr and the group's official financial results. According to an analysis by the American investment bank JP Morgan, United Group's losses increased from 103.35 million euros in 2021 to as much as 227.03 million euros. Unofficial data indicate that in 2023 the loss will reach 400 million euros, writes Politika.

 

The Serbian publication also cited the case of Capital.gr – the Greek media that reported on the poor financial condition of Sholak's group. After the publication, United Group froze all advertising budgets, and the editorial office was sent a warning to stop covering the group, Politika claimed. A particular concern among the group's investors is the loss of customers in all markets except Slovenia where United operates - it is expected that in 2024 the market share of the operator SBB in Serbia will fall to below 40%, while in the period 2000-2018 was practically a monopoly and the largest provider of Internet and television.

 

Among the reasons for this decline is the growth of the main competitor Telecom Serbia, as well as Sholak's appetite to dominate the market in Greece and Bulgaria, which put the group in a debt spiral. According to Politika, Šolak has declared war on Telecom Serbia and is working with the biggest lobbying firms in the US and the EU to attack the telecom in an attempt to slow its growth. His strongest weapon is the media – in Serbia, Sholak owns N1 and Nova, which constantly attack the competition. This approach has been criticized even in Croatia, where the Media Daily portal said that "the media from the United group openly manipulates the truth in the interests of their owners". In Bulgaria, United Group owns Nova TV, as well as the Netinfo group, which includes a number of sites and newspapers such as Telegraf, DarikNews, Vesti, etc., which positively reflect every step of the Vivacom telecom on almost every site.

 

In Bulgaria, United Group bought Vivacom for the astronomical sum of 937 million euros from the owner connected to the Russian VTB Bank and Delta Capital International. Sholak bought the media directly from the appointees of the former rulers, some of whom were sanctioned under international law.

 

Serbian media reports that the United Group has also gone to war with the Austrians in the form of A1 Bulgaria, part of Telecom Austria, which has signaled the EC and the Austrian government about the attempt to acquire Bulsatcom by creating a "monopoly never seen in Bulgaria", despite the huge consolidated market share of over 60%.

 

In addition to this, BC Partners is also worried about the group's actions in North Macedonia, where the machinations of the company Total TV Makedonija led to the financial police raiding the offices and conducting a search, with 38 financial inspectors dealing with the case. There are also problems in Greece, writes Politika. In July of this year, the To Vima newspaper announced that United Group had received 100 million euros from the EU for a project to develop an optical and 5G network in Greece, but "tens of months later there is no progress on the project" < a i=3> The biggest clash between BC Partners and United Group is at the level of Sholak and the Greek partner Nikos Stathopoulos, who keep talking against each other, the Greek portal In.gr claims. According to Greek media, Stathopoulos is unhappy with the way United Group runs the business under "Balkan rules". Sholak was also unhappy because his Greek partner had promised huge investments in Greece due to close ties with Prime Minister Mitsotakis, but they did no

t materialize.

[aektzhs 1]

40 minutes ago, doganos said:

Δεν ξέρω αν έχει ξανά μπει αλλά πάει προς πουλημα η United?

 

Serbian media: United Group is for sale, BC Partners is frantically looking for a buyer for the indebted owner of Vivacom

 

Investment fund BC Partners wants to get rid of Dragan Šolak and sell its share in United Group, but cannot find a buyer, reported Serbian media Politika.rs, Informer.rs, Telegraf Business and others. Most worrying for the fund is the behavior of the Serbian Sholak, which is described in business circles as "extreme". The London-based fund bought a stake in United Group from the US group KKR in 2019 for 2.56 billion euros, which has held a stake in the group since March 2014.

 

BC Partners' five-year holding cycle in United Group is coming to an end, and this is the usual "exit" period for the investment. According to media sources, a buyer was supposed to be found as early as December of this year, but this did not happen because "no one wants to do business with Sholak." The main reason is the group's liabilities, which in 2022 have grown to 7.13 billion euros, the media reported, citing the Greek Capital.gr and the group's official financial results. According to an analysis by the American investment bank JP Morgan, United Group's losses increased from 103.35 million euros in 2021 to as much as 227.03 million euros. Unofficial data indicate that in 2023 the loss will reach 400 million euros, writes Politika.

 

The Serbian publication also cited the case of Capital.gr – the Greek media that reported on the poor financial condition of Sholak's group. After the publication, United Group froze all advertising budgets, and the editorial office was sent a warning to stop covering the group, Politika claimed. A particular concern among the group's investors is the loss of customers in all markets except Slovenia where United operates - it is expected that in 2024 the market share of the operator SBB in Serbia will fall to below 40%, while in the period 2000-2018 was practically a monopoly and the largest provider of Internet and television.

 

Among the reasons for this decline is the growth of the main competitor Telecom Serbia, as well as Sholak's appetite to dominate the market in Greece and Bulgaria, which put the group in a debt spiral. According to Politika, Šolak has declared war on Telecom Serbia and is working with the biggest lobbying firms in the US and the EU to attack the telecom in an attempt to slow its growth. His strongest weapon is the media – in Serbia, Sholak owns N1 and Nova, which constantly attack the competition. This approach has been criticized even in Croatia, where the Media Daily portal said that "the media from the United group openly manipulates the truth in the interests of their owners". In Bulgaria, United Group owns Nova TV, as well as the Netinfo group, which includes a number of sites and newspapers such as Telegraf, DarikNews, Vesti, etc., which positively reflect every step of the Vivacom telecom on almost every site.

 

In Bulgaria, United Group bought Vivacom for the astronomical sum of 937 million euros from the owner connected to the Russian VTB Bank and Delta Capital International. Sholak bought the media directly from the appointees of the former rulers, some of whom were sanctioned under international law.

 

Serbian media reports that the United Group has also gone to war with the Austrians in the form of A1 Bulgaria, part of Telecom Austria, which has signaled the EC and the Austrian government about the attempt to acquire Bulsatcom by creating a "monopoly never seen in Bulgaria", despite the huge consolidated market share of over 60%.

 

In addition to this, BC Partners is also worried about the group's actions in North Macedonia, where the machinations of the company Total TV Makedonija led to the financial police raiding the offices and conducting a search, with 38 financial inspectors dealing with the case. There are also problems in Greece, writes Politika. In July of this year, the To Vima newspaper announced that United Group had received 100 million euros from the EU for a project to develop an optical and 5G network in Greece, but "tens of months later there is no progress on the project" < a i=3> The biggest clash between BC Partners and United Group is at the level of Sholak and the Greek partner Nikos Stathopoulos, who keep talking against each other, the Greek portal In.gr claims. According to Greek media, Stathopoulos is unhappy with the way United Group runs the business under "Balkan rules". Sholak was also unhappy because his Greek partner had promised huge investments in Greece due to close ties with Prime Minister Mitsotakis, but they did no

t materialize.

Όπα!!!!Τι γίνεται εδώ;;;;

[p_k]

42 minutes ago, doganos said:

Δεν ξέρω αν έχει ξανά μπει αλλά πάει προς πουλημα η United?

 

Serbian media: United Group is for sale, BC Partners is frantically looking for a buyer for the indebted owner of Vivacom

 

Investment fund BC Partners wants to get rid of Dragan Šolak and sell its share in United Group, but cannot find a buyer, reported Serbian media Politika.rs, Informer.rs, Telegraf Business and others. Most worrying for the fund is the behavior of the Serbian Sholak, which is described in business circles as "extreme". The London-based fund bought a stake in United Group from the US group KKR in 2019 for 2.56 billion euros, which has held a stake in the group since March 2014.

 

BC Partners' five-year holding cycle in United Group is coming to an end, and this is the usual "exit" period for the investment. According to media sources, a buyer was supposed to be found as early as December of this year, but this did not happen because "no one wants to do business with Sholak." The main reason is the group's liabilities, which in 2022 have grown to 7.13 billion euros, the media reported, citing the Greek Capital.gr and the group's official financial results. According to an analysis by the American investment bank JP Morgan, United Group's losses increased from 103.35 million euros in 2021 to as much as 227.03 million euros. Unofficial data indicate that in 2023 the loss will reach 400 million euros, writes Politika.

 

The Serbian publication also cited the case of Capital.gr – the Greek media that reported on the poor financial condition of Sholak's group. After the publication, United Group froze all advertising budgets, and the editorial office was sent a warning to stop covering the group, Politika claimed. A particular concern among the group's investors is the loss of customers in all markets except Slovenia where United operates - it is expected that in 2024 the market share of the operator SBB in Serbia will fall to below 40%, while in the period 2000-2018 was practically a monopoly and the largest provider of Internet and television.

 

Among the reasons for this decline is the growth of the main competitor Telecom Serbia, as well as Sholak's appetite to dominate the market in Greece and Bulgaria, which put the group in a debt spiral. According to Politika, Šolak has declared war on Telecom Serbia and is working with the biggest lobbying firms in the US and the EU to attack the telecom in an attempt to slow its growth. His strongest weapon is the media – in Serbia, Sholak owns N1 and Nova, which constantly attack the competition. This approach has been criticized even in Croatia, where the Media Daily portal said that "the media from the United group openly manipulates the truth in the interests of their owners". In Bulgaria, United Group owns Nova TV, as well as the Netinfo group, which includes a number of sites and newspapers such as Telegraf, DarikNews, Vesti, etc., which positively reflect every step of the Vivacom telecom on almost every site.

 

In Bulgaria, United Group bought Vivacom for the astronomical sum of 937 million euros from the owner connected to the Russian VTB Bank and Delta Capital International. Sholak bought the media directly from the appointees of the former rulers, some of whom were sanctioned under international law.

 

Serbian media reports that the United Group has also gone to war with the Austrians in the form of A1 Bulgaria, part of Telecom Austria, which has signaled the EC and the Austrian government about the attempt to acquire Bulsatcom by creating a "monopoly never seen in Bulgaria", despite the huge consolidated market share of over 60%.

 

In addition to this, BC Partners is also worried about the group's actions in North Macedonia, where the machinations of the company Total TV Makedonija led to the financial police raiding the offices and conducting a search, with 38 financial inspectors dealing with the case. There are also problems in Greece, writes Politika. In July of this year, the To Vima newspaper announced that United Group had received 100 million euros from the EU for a project to develop an optical and 5G network in Greece, but "tens of months later there is no progress on the project" < a i=3> The biggest clash between BC Partners and United Group is at the level of Sholak and the Greek partner Nikos Stathopoulos, who keep talking against each other, the Greek portal In.gr claims. According to Greek media, Stathopoulos is unhappy with the way United Group runs the business under "Balkan rules". Sholak was also unhappy because his Greek partner had promised huge investments in Greece due to close ties with Prime Minister Mitsotakis, but they did no

t materialize.

Ποια είναι η πηγή φίλε μου; 

Ευχαριστώ 

[cmvr]

έσκασε και αυτό για την cosmote 

https://www.newsbreak.gr/ellada/541895/ta-mystiria-toy-ote-kai-tis-siemens/

 

[doganos]

9 ώρες πριν, p_k said:

Ποια είναι η πηγή φίλε μου; 

Ευχαριστώ 

Το είδα στο αντιστοιχο my phone της βουλγαριας που παρακολουθώ. 

Λογικά είναι από τα μέσα ενημέρωσης της Σερβιας. 

[cmvr]

5 ώρες πριν, doganos said:

Το είδα στο αντιστοιχο my phone της βουλγαριας που παρακολουθώ. 

Λογικά είναι από τα μέσα ενημέρωσης της Σερβιας. 

Πιο είναι φοβερό myphone της Βουλγαρίας;  έτσι από περιέργεια ρωτάω 😃

[memoriesradio]

Παιδιά θα παρακαλούσα να μην αναρτώνται έτσι απότομα τέτοιες ανακοινώσεις περί πώλησης της United εδώ μέσα!

1. Υπάρχουν άτομα εδώ, που μπορεί να χρειαστούν άμεσα ψυχολογική υποστήριξη (και όχι μόνο) σε βάθος χρόνου αν ισχύει τελικά κάτι τέτοιο.
2. Ακόμη δεν έχει τελειώσει το επενδυτικό της πλάνο, οπότε καλό είναι να μην της το χαλάσουμε.
3. Θα πάψει κάθε υπερεκθετική αναφορά προς και πάντα υπέρ της νόβα και μετά το forum θα καταντήσει μίζερο.
4. Θα χάσουμε και την Victoriya Boklag, που στην αρχή με το μακρύ ξανθό μαλλί και λίγο Photoshop την έβλεπα πολύ ωραίο μωρό, ενώ τώρα με το κοντό αγορέ μαλλί την βλέπω σαν συνταξιούχο απόστρατο της Wafen Es-Es.
5. Όλα εδώ πληρώνονται...

Edited December 17, 2023 by memoriesradio

[georgebad]

1 ώρα πριν, memoriesradio said:

Παιδιά θα παρακαλούσα να μην αναρτώνται έτσι απότομα τέτοιες ανακοινώσεις περί πώλησης της United εδώ μέσα!

1. Υπάρχουν άτομα εδώ, που μπορεί να χρειαστούν άμεσα ψυχολογική υποστήριξη (και όχι μόνο) σε βάθος χρόνου αν ισχύει τελικά κάτι τέτοιο.
2. Ακόμη δεν έχει τελειώσει το επενδυτικό της πλάνο, οπότε καλό είναι να μην της το χαλάσουμε.
3. Θα πάψει κάθε υπερεκθετική αναφορά προς και πάντα υπέρ της νόβα και μετά το forum θα καταντήσει μίζερο.
4. Θα χάσουμε και την Victoriya Boklag, που στην αρχή με το μακρύ ξανθό μαλλί και λίγο Photoshop την έβλεπα πολύ ωραίο μωρό, ενώ τώρα με το κοντό αγορέ μαλλί την βλέπω σαν συνταξιούχο απόστρατο της Wafen Es-Es.
5. Όλα εδώ πληρώνονται...

Δλδ η Telestet-TIM-WIND-nova-ένας θεός ξέρει ποιο θα είναι το επόμενο , δεν θα προλάβει ούτε με αυτό το όνομα να δώσει συον κόσμο eSIM ?

[p_k]

Η κίνδυνολογία ζει και βασιλεύει. Το ίδιο και η συνωμοσιολογία - φαντασιοπληξια. 

[georgebad]

4 minutes ago, p_k said:

Η κίνδυνολογία ζει και βασιλεύει. Το ίδιο και η συνωμοσιολογία - φαντασιοπληξια. 

Ας το δούμε και λίγο στην Πλακα γιατί αν είναι να τα δούμε όλα σοβαρά είναι ξεφτίλα εν έτη 2024 να μην υποστηρίζεται eSIM .

[p_k]

Όποιος θέλει esim λοιπόν, είναι ελεύθερος να επιλέξει άλλη εταιρεία, είναι πολύ απλό. 

 

[georgeavl3]

Αντί να εκσυγχρονιστούμε, να τους διώξουμε. Ωραία τακτική.

[Gv2008]

24 minutes ago, p_k said:

Όποιος θέλει esim λοιπόν, είναι ελεύθερος να επιλέξει άλλη εταιρεία, είναι πολύ απλό. 

 

Εγώ που θα πάρω το iPhone 14 και θα θέλω να αλλάξω εταιρεία θα μου πουν δεν έχουμε esim μπορείτε να φύγετε χωρίς να πληρώσετε; Αμφιβάλλω 

[p_k]

1 minute ago, Gv2008 said:

Εγώ που θα πάρω το iPhone 14 και θα θέλω να αλλάξω εταιρεία θα μου πουν δεν έχουμε esim μπορείτε να φύγετε χωρίς να πληρώσετε; Αμφιβάλλω 

Δεν υποστηρίζει φυσική σιμ; 

[aektzhs 1]

20 minutes ago, Gv2008 said:

Εγώ που θα πάρω το iPhone 14 και θα θέλω να αλλάξω εταιρεία θα μου πουν δεν έχουμε esim μπορείτε να φύγετε χωρίς να πληρώσετε; Αμφιβάλλω 

Εγώ πάντως φίλε βλέπω μια τάση αποχώρησης από την εταιρεία. Πολύς κόσμος δεν κάνει υπομονή πότε θα δεήσουν να εκσυγχρονιστούν στην Nova ή πότε θα θυμηθούν να τρέξουν πιο γρήγορα τις αναβαθμίσεις. Παράλληλα βλέπω ότι η Vodafone σε σχέση με το 2022 έχει κάνει άλματα. Προσωπικά από τον Σεπτέμβριο και μετά είδα μπόλικες αναβαθμίσεις από πλευράς vf. Καλά η πράσινη είναι ακλόνητη στην κορυφή. Δηλαδή με λίγα λόγια το άλμα που έκανε πέρσι η Nova κινδυνεύει να το χάσει από την Vodafone που ξεκίνησε το πλάνο πολύ αργότερα. Όσον αφορά το IPhone 14 προχώρα είναι τέλειο κινητό 

[waeo]

Αεροδρόμιο Αθήνας

5G

4G

 

 

Edited December 17, 2023 by waeo

[Gv2008]

51 minutes ago, p_k said:

Δεν υποστηρίζει φυσική σιμ; 

Εγώ πρέπει να έχω άλλη κάρτα φυσική sim. Ένας φίλος μου έφερε iPhone 15 από USA και έχει μόνο esim. Εκεί τι γίνεται;

[p_k]

25 minutes ago, Gv2008 said:

Εγώ πρέπει να έχω άλλη κάρτα φυσική sim. Ένας φίλος μου έφερε iPhone 15 από USA και έχει μόνο esim. Εκεί τι γίνεται;

Στην περίπτωση αυτή, έχεις απόλυτο δίκιο. 

[memoriesradio]

Εγκαταστάθηκαν νέοι σταθμοί της Victus στα τούνελ της Εγνατίας Οδού στην περιοχή του Μετσόβου όπου δεν υπήρχε κάλυψη.

Αναμένουμε και την ενεργοποίηση.

Edited December 17, 2023 by memoriesradio

[aektzhs 1]

1 minute ago, memoriesradio said:

Εγκαταστάθηκαν νέοι σταθμοί της Victus στα τούνελ της Εγνατίας Οδού στην περιοχή του Μετσόβου που δεν υπήρχε κάλυψη.

Αναμένουμε και την ενεργοποίηση.

Μπράβο!!!!

[dasnowy]

11 minutes ago, memoriesradio said:

Εγκαταστάθηκαν νέοι σταθμοί της Victus στα τούνελ της Εγνατίας Οδού στην περιοχή του Μετσόβου όπου δεν υπήρχε κάλυψη.

Αναμένουμε και την ενεργοποίηση.

Καλό αυτό. Την προηγούμενη εβδομάδα που πέρασα δεν είδα κάτι. Πάντως μετά το Μέτσοβο προς Ιωάννινα δε χάνουν κάλυψη στα τούνελ πλέον. Τον Απρίλιο που είχα πάει έχαναν. Στη διαδρομή παναγία-καλαμπάκα μόνο nova και vodafone έχουν καλή κάλυψη με 5 γραμμές 4G παντού (η vodafone έχει και 4G+ στο μεγαλύτερο κομμάτι της διαδρομής με 80-100mbps). Η cosmote έχει αρκετό edge και βγαίνει και εκτός υπηρεσίας. 

[andreasomageiras]

2 ώρες πριν, p_k said:

Στην περίπτωση αυτή, έχεις απόλυτο δίκιο. 

Δίκιο ως καταναλωτής, η εταιρεία μπορεί να απαντήσει ότι δεν φέρει ευθύνη για τυχόν συσκευές που δεν δέχονται φυσικές κάρτες. Εξάλλου δεν παρέχει τέτοιες συσκευές από το δίκτυο της...

Θα ήταν μια πιθανή απάντηση. 

[memoriesradio]

8 minutes ago, dasnowy said:

Καλό αυτό. Την προηγούμενη εβδομάδα που πέρασα δεν είδα κάτι. Πάντως μετά το Μέτσοβο προς Ιωάννινα δε χάνουν κάλυψη στα τούνελ πλέον. Τον Απρίλιο που είχα πάει έχαναν. Στη διαδρομή παναγία-καλαμπάκα μόνο nova και vodafone έχουν καλή κάλυψη με 5 γραμμές 4G παντού (η vodafone έχει και 4G+ στο μεγαλύτερο κομμάτι της διαδρομής με 80-100mbps). Η cosmote έχει αρκετό edge και βγαίνει και εκτός υπηρεσίας. 

Μέτσοβο-Ιωάννινα δεν υπήρχε πρόβλημα. Το πρόβλημα υπήρχε από Μέτσοβο-Γρεβεννά όπου 2-3 τούνελ (και ένα πολύ μεγάλο) ήταν με no service...

Επίσης αναφέρομαι στην Εγνατία Οδό και όχι στην διαδρομή Παναγιά-Καλαμπάκα.

Edited December 17, 2023 by memoriesradio

[Chrischal1908]

44 minutes ago, memoriesradio said:

Εγκαταστάθηκαν νέοι σταθμοί της Victus στα τούνελ της Εγνατίας Οδού στην περιοχή του Μετσόβου όπου δεν υπήρχε κάλυψη.

Αναμένουμε και την ενεργοποίηση.

4G/5G;; Όταν ενεργοποιηθούν δώσε εικόνα, εάν θέλεις.