Microsoft Windows 8

[Itchrist86]

Windows 8: A First Peek

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win8_leak.asp

 

Thanks to a mistakenly leaked set of documents Microsoft shared with its PC

maker partners--I won't reveal the source like some other unprofessional bloggers did with this year's iPhone 4 leak--we now have our first inside look at what Microsoft is currently thinking about including in Windows 8. These plans, of course, are bound to change and much is still up in the air. But for those tech enthusiasts who have been simply pining away for information, this is the mother lode, especially given how far ahead of the release we are.

 

Here's what we found out this week.

 

 

Schedule

Actually, this bit wasn't included in the leaked documents: Microsoft currently plans to ship Windows 8 by mid-2012. If you do the math, that means a first beta release by mid-2011--just one year from now--and a public beta by the end of 2011.

 

As with Windows 7, Windows 8 will follow a very regimented and logical schedule. Currently, Microsoft is in the planning stages, where the big picture comes together and broad themes are introduced. These themes will morph into scenarios and then, finally, into individual features. This phase is just about over.

 

In phase two, development, Microsoft will design and build those features. It will refine the SKU (product edition) lineup. And it will begin sharing code with other development groups within Microsoft so that they can build their own integration pieces. This phase will last until Beta, in mid-2011.

 

Finally, in the third phase, readiness, the product is now feature complete. Microsoft prepares Windows 8 to come to market by fixing bugs.

 

Note that, as with Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows 8 and Windows Server "8" are being developed simultaneously. This is the plan going forward for all Windows/Windows Server versions.

 

Product edition differentiation

While we're still many months away from understanding what features will be included in each Windows 8 product edition, Microsoft does already have an idea about some of the features it will use to differentiate each version: App Store (yes, like that for the iPhone; possibly called Windows Store), devices, multimedia, help and support, and UI & theming. The Windows 8 user experience will be even "less complex" than that of Windows 7.

 

Microsoft will also allow its PC maker partners to customize Windows 8 in ways that were not previously possible. This includes cobranding on the App Store/Microsoft Store, enhancements to Device Stage, integration in Help & Support and Windows Troubleshooting, and so on.

 

Also, the PC market is changing. By 2013, China will be the number one PC market in the world. Emerging form factors like slates are redefining people's expectations, and low-cost PCs like netbooks will continue to grow.

 

Co-developed products

Microsoft has confirmed that Internet Explorer 9 will be part of Windows 8, though it will most likely ship well before Windows 8. Interestingly, Windows Live Wave 5 will also ship concurrently with Windows 8, or at least be developed concurrently. This makes sense when you consider the 18 month development time for each Windows Live wave. The current release, Windows Live Wave 4, will ship sometime in late 2010. That time period plus 18 months is mid-2012, exactly when Microsoft plans to ship Windows 8.

 

(By the way, the leaked documents note that an IE 9 beta is expected in August 2010 and that this release will involve the "first release of full IE functionality." Release Candidate and RTW--release to web--dates are TBD.)

 

PC form factor targets

Microsoft expects Windows 8 to target three main PC types, the "Lap PC," the "Workhorse PC," and the "Family Hub PC." These names roughly correspond to PC types we're currently familiar with, of course, and one might imagine that the "Lap PC" category includes netbooks, tablets, and notebook computers.

 

Windows Store (App Store)

Microsoft intends to support Windows 8 with an iPhone-like App Store that could be named Windows Store. It will provide consumers with an obvious and trustworthy way to find new Windows 8 applications, with a delightful end user experience. The company feels that improving the Windows app model (see below) is "critical" for success and that having one catalog and one experience is key to making it happen.

 

Application platform

Microsoft's recent (Vista+) application development platform technologies haven't exactly taken the world by storm, and as Google is fond of pointing out, most new applications these days are actually web applications, not applications that target traditional desktop OSes like Windows or Mac OS X. With this in mind, Windows 8 will support "tailored web applications" that appear to blend web technologies with native Windows technologies, providing a more seamless experience for users, especially when you consider that discoverability will occur via an App Store, possibly called Windows Store.

 

According to Microsoft, these "tailored experiences" offer instant gratification (super easy discovery and install), take advantage of web services, integrate with social networks (and such social technologies as ratings and collaboration), are extensible, scale according to device type and capabilities, and have flexible licensing, distribution, and monetization options. These monetization options are similar to what's planned for Windows Phone: Try/buy, in-app purchases, subscriptions, ad-supported, and alternate currencies, among others.

 

Best of all, this integration with the web will enable a My Applications scenario where applications and application settings follow users from device to device.

 

The big question is how this will all come together. Native Windows APIs are diverse and inconsistent, and languages like C++ and C# are not approachable for hobbyists. Microsoft is investigating HTML 5 and JavaScript as an alternative, providing tiers of programming models that would be accessible to all kinds of developers.

 

Microsoft is also looking at other application-level interactions, including stereoscopic 3D, high color displays, and multi-nodal natural input.

 

Digital media

While the leaked documents don't communicate the fates of Microsoft's myriad of digital media players (Windows Media Player, Windows Media Center, and Zune), there is still some very interesting information. Windows 8 will include support for new formats, including AVC HD (with chapter seek), 3D video, and multiple MPEG-4 formats for the web, and will improve MJPEG (webcams and still cameras), MPEG-2 (decoding/encoding), H.264 (encoding), and WMV. Additionally, Microsoft will expand the Windows 8 Play To experiences to include HTML 5-based audio and video in web pages.

 

Backup

Windows 7 built off of the solid backup and restore foundation from Windows Vista but made some more logical differentiations between the various SKUs, or product editions. With Windows 8, Microsoft hopes to further improve backup and continue differentiating between the low-end and premium SKUs. Windows 8 will utilize new location capabilities (see below) to determine how/if Windows Backup can function, and will be more automatic, requiring less user intervention.

 

Startup time and power management

While Windows 7 included dramatic improvements to resume time (from sleep) and power management in general, Windows 8 will provide fast, nearly instantaneous resumes from various states and should resemble appliance performance. A lot of this work is simply an extension of what happened in Windows 7 and thus doesn't bear much discussion, but it's important to note, I think, that the sudden emphasis on iPad-like slate PCs will require Windows 8 to function more like a device than like a PC when it comes to wakeup times. One thing Microsoft is considering is renaming the power off states; perhaps by eliminating or renaming "Shut down" they can convince users to utilize built-in power management efficiencies.

 

Restore, reset and recovery

While most PC makers offer some form of PC recovery functionality that is based on lower-level Microsoft tools and technologies, Windows itself doesn't currently offer any integrated functionality along these lines. That may change in Windows 8, where Microsoft is planning to provide a number of features that will help users overcome performance issues both real and imagined. These include a way for users to restore the system to a recommended state with calling for help and a "push button" ("factory") reset option that would (finally) protect users' personal data, settings, and other customizations. After such a reset, the user could launch the Windows Store to reinstall applications.

 

New device types

Windows 8 will natively support next generation devices based on the USB 3.0 standard. It will also support Bluetooth 3.0 (but not Bluetooth 3.0 + High Speed) for hands free adapters and mono and stereo headsets. Interestingly, Microsoft is considering deprecating Firewire/IEEE1394 support in Windows 8, meaning that support would continue but that improvements and enhancements would cease.

 

Locations and sensors

While Windows 7 was the first Windows version to provide a sensors platform, including support for all-important location capabilities, Windows 8 will improve on these technologies dramatically. The biggest piece of this is an "in-box" location service, codenamed Orion, which uses Wi-Fi triangulation with accuracy down to 50 to 100 meters, or IP lookup with accuracy down to 25 kilometers. (It supports dedicated GPS hardware as well, of course. This provides accuracy to 3 to 20 meters.)

 

Windows 8 will also include support for other sensor types, including human presence sensors (read: Kinect) with facial recognition and attention detection functionality, ambient lighting, system orientatin, accelerometer, infrared, and so on.

 

The sensor support in Windows 8 may seem uninteresting, but it enables some fascinating possibilities. In the leaked Microsoft documentation, the software giant explains how a sensor-enabled Windows 8 PC could detect which user just walked in the room, turn on the PC, and log him in, all automatically. When he gets up and leaves, the PC logs off.

 

Likewise, on portable PCs, you could be playing a game and then stand up and leave; when you do so, the game will pause and, over time, log off. Microsoft expects sensors to be a common feature of most Windows PCs by 2012. Just in time for Windows 8.

 

Final thoughts

There's a bit more, but that's the big picture stuff and probably the most interesting bits. Certainly, we didn't receive a gift like this so early in the Windows 7 development timeline, so this is quite interesting indeed. I can't wait to find out more.

[dkaralis]

Κιολας?Σα πολυ νωρις αρχισαν τα σεναρια.

[Student]

Κιολας?Σα πολυ νωρις αρχισαν τα σεναρια.

 

Πολύ νωρίς ;; Ήδη άρχισαν να λένε σε διάφορα sites ότι η RTM θα βγει μες στο 2012 και η πρώτη beta μέσα στο 2010-2011.

[dkaralis]

Πλακα κενεις...και μου φαινοταν οτι τα seven θα εμεναν αλλη μια πενταετια.

[Student]

Πλακα κενεις...και μου φαινοταν οτι τα seven θα εμεναν αλλη μια πενταετια.

 

Δεν ξέρω αν θα τα κρατήσουν περισσότερο, πάντως η τεχνική υποστήριξη της Microsoft για τα Win 7 θα διαρκέσει πολύ και δεν θα λήξει μετά από τρία - τέσσερα χρόνια (όπως έγινε και με τα Vista) λόγω των υψηλών πωλήσεων.

 

Ψάχνωντας 5' στο Google ανακάλυψα το εξής:

 

According to news and rumor site Fudzilla, former Microsoft employee Chris Green drew up a chart detailing Microsoft's roadmap for future product releases. In it, he reveals the following release schedule:

 

* Windows 8: July 1, 2011

* Windows Server 2012: July 2, 2012

* Office 2012: July 2, 2012

* SQL Server 2011: July 1, 2011

* SharePoint Server 2013: July 1, 2013

* Exchange 2013: July 1, 2013

* OCS 2010: December 1, 2010

 

Αν όλα τα παραπάνω ισχύουν (και δεν εννοώ μόνο τις ημερομηνίες) ενδέχεται να δούμε μαζί με τα Windows 8 και νέα έκδοση του Microsoft Office πράγμα που είναι λίγο απίθανο μιας και ακόμα δεν έχει βγει η επίσημη έκδοση του Microsoft Office 2010. :blink:

[Student]

Βγήκε στο διαδίκτυο η Milestone 1 έκδοση των Windows 8. Μπορείτε να τη βρείτε και ως Windows 7 Build 7850. Δεν θα βρείτε μεγάλες διαφορές σε σχέση με τα Windows 7 επειδή είναι σε πρώιμο στάδιο ακόμη αλλά θα δείτε κάποιες νέες δυνατότητες στον Explorer, στο Task Manager και στην Taskbar.

 

Η έκδοση αυτή δημιουργήθηκε το Σεπτέμβρη του 2010 (δλδ πριν ακόμα κυκλοφορήσει το SP1 των Windows 7. Επίσης, η έκδοση αυτή των Windows έχει εγκατεστημένο τον Internet Explorer 9 Beta και έχει λήξει από το Φλεβάρη. Γι'αυτό μόλις τη βάλετε στον Virtual PC (γιατί ως κύριο λειτουργικό δεν συστήνεται) θα παρατηρήσετε το μήνυμα "Αυτή η έκδοση των Windows δεν είναι γνήσια". Αλλά θα είναι πλήρως λειτουργική.

 

Τέλος, ενδέχεται να συναντήσετε μερικά bugs κατά την πλοήγησή σας στα Windows 8. Σύμφωνα με σχόλια χρηστών σε διάφορα sites, τα bugs αυτά φεύγουν με την ενεργοποίηση των Windows μέσω activator.

[Candlemass]

Έχει διαρρεύσει και η Milestone 2 (build 7955) αλλά δεν υπάρχει λόγος να συζητάμε ακόμα για Μ builds αφού και το UI είναι ίδιο με των 7. Ούτε γνωρίζουμε τι στόχο είχαν οι developers για το κάθε milestone που πιάνουν ώστε να το τεστάρουμε...

[Student]

Έχει διαρρεύσει και η Milestone 2 (build 7955) αλλά δεν υπάρχει λόγος να συζητάμε ακόμα για Μ builds αφού και το UI είναι ίδιο με των 7. Ούτε γνωρίζουμε τι στόχο είχαν οι developers για το κάθε milestone που πιάνουν ώστε να το τεστάρουμε...

 

Εν μέρη είναι ίδιο το UI με των 7, αλλά σου δίνει την ευκαιρία να δεις καινούργιες δυνατότητες όπως είναι το Ribbon στον Explorer, το κλείδωμα αλλά Android στην εισαγωγή του χρήστη το Desktop κ.α. Περιμένουμε την Beta (η οποία λέγεται πως θα βγει το Φθινόπωρο).

[vold]

Σε μερικά σημεία μοιάζει πιο πολύ με tablet παρά με pc....

[mitsos1]

Παιδια μηπως ξερετε ποιες θα ειναι οι ελαχιστες και οι προτεινομενες απαιτησεις για pc;

[Student]

Παιδια μηπως ξερετε ποιες θα ειναι οι ελαχιστες και οι προτεινομενες απαιτησεις για pc;

 

Μιας και τα Windows 8 είναι ακόμα σε Milestone 3 έκδοση, δεν έχουν βγει οι απαιτήσεις που χρειάζονται.

 

Πάντως, ένας από τη Microsoft δήλωσε ότι τα Windows 8 θα είναι κατάλληλα ακόμα και για παλαιότερους υπολογιστές αφού θα'χουν τις ίδιες ή λιγότερες απαιτήσεις.

[mitsos1]

Μιας και τα Windows 8 είναι ακόμα σε Milestone 3 έκδοση, δεν έχουν βγει οι απαιτήσεις που χρειάζονται.

 

Πάντως, ένας από τη Microsoft δήλωσε ότι τα Windows 8 θα είναι κατάλληλα ακόμα και για παλαιότερους υπολογιστές αφού θα'χουν τις ίδιες ή λιγότερες απαιτήσεις.

 

Ok ευχαριστω!Βρηκα και κατι που επιβεβαιωνει αυτο που λες http://pcw.gr/Article/Windows-Software/Microsoft_Windows8/242-5930.html

[navi55]

Windows 8: Το PC σου θα ανοίγει σε δεύτερα

[mol]

κυκλοφορεί κάπου δοκιμαστική έκδοση; θα ήθελα να τα δοκιμάσω

[Itchrist86]

1. Windows 8 Developer Preview with developer tools English, 64-bit (x64)
   
2. Windows 8 Developer Preview English, 64-bit (x64)
   
3. Windows 8 Developer Preview English, 32-bit (x86)
   

 

 

 

System Requirements

Windows Developer Preview works great on the same hardware that powers Windows Vista and Windows 7:

• 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
  
• 1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
  
• 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
  
• DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
  
• Taking advantage of touch input requires a screen that supports multi-touch
  

[mol]

thanx! προτείνεται να γίνει εγκατάσταση σε δίσκο ή virtual machine;

[zxr]

Αρχικά θα δοκίμαζα σε VM. Δυστυχώς το laptop μου δεν είναι επαρκές προκειμένου να τα δοκιμάσω...

[Mitsos_The_Great]

Τρέχουν και σε Netbook με Atom 1.66 & 1gb ram. Ανέβασα βίντεο >>>

. Συγγνώμη για την χάλια ποιότητα , είναι τραβηγμένο από το κινητό! :)

 

Δυστηχώς δεν μπόρεσα να συνδεθώ το Internet. Κατά τ'άλλα είναι πολύ γρήγορα και σπάνια φτάνει ο επεξεργαστής πάνω από 70%, παίζει HD Video 720p με τον WMP χωρίς Lag . Αν έχετε απορίες πείτε τις.

Edited September 14, 2011 by Mitsos_The_Great

[mol]

θενξ zxr!

Mitsos_The_Great το εγκατέστησες στον δίσκο;

[Mitsos_The_Great]

Ναι!!! (10 Χαρακτήρες)

[mol]

ωραία! έχεις εντοπίσει άλλα προβληματα εκτός του νετ;

 

θα δοκιμασω να τα βάλω σε πεντιουμ 4 και 512 ραμ :p

[zxr]

ωραία! έχεις εντοπίσει άλλα προβληματα εκτός του νετ;

 

θα δοκιμασω να τα βάλω σε πεντιουμ 4 και 512 ραμ :p

 

Δεν το βλέπω να δουλεύει με τόση λίγη ram.

[Mitsos_The_Great]

ωραία! έχεις εντοπίσει άλλα προβληματα εκτός του νετ;

 

θα δοκιμασω να τα βάλω σε πεντιουμ 4 και 512 ραμ :p

 

Μέχρι στιγμής όχι. Τελικά δεν έφταιγαν τα 8 για το Net αλλά τα 7 :p Δεν μπορούσαν να πάρουν ip από το δύκτυο ad-hoc (το ίδιο και το κινητό) άρα δεν έχει να κάνει με τα 8 ;) Να πω επίσης ότι υποστιρίζει τους Drivers (π.χ vga) των Windows 7 ;) Τέλος σου προτείνω να ΜΗΝ τα δοκιμάσεις με 512Ram (εκτός και αν θες να δεις την νέα "μπλε" οθόνη) :p

[mol]

γουστάρω ΜΠΛΕ οθόνη :lol:

δεν έχω να χάσω κάτι ;)

 

επίσης δεν είχα πει ότι τα 8 θα είναι πλήρως λειτουργικά σε παλαιότερα μηχανήματα;

τα 7 στο ντεσκτοπ τρέχουν μια χαρά!

[geovass]

Τα δοκίμασα χθες σε VM πάνω σε OSX Lion :lol:

Εχει πολύ ψωμί ακόμααααα....