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INTEL SKYLAKE PER IBRIDI, NOTEBOOK E GAMESTATION GIÀ A SETTEMBRE

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Έχουμε εικόνα αν η νέα γενιά θα υποστηρίζει HD Audio & 23.976?

Για δωσε παραπάνω info διοτι η αλήθεια ειναι οτι δεν εχω ακουσει για τέτοια κωδικοποίηση audio αν λεω σωστά;

Ποια η χρησιμότητα και ποιές συσκευές την αξιοποιούν;

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Alex καλημέρα. Σκέφτομαι μια δοκιμή του Lenovo ThinkPad helix 2 lte. Τι λες , μπορει να με κανει να απαρνηθω το pro 3;

Το βρίσκω στα 1250 με 4gb ram, 180ssd, lte...

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Alex καλημέρα. Σκέφτομαι μια δοκιμή του Lenovo ThinkPad helix 2 lte. Τι λες , μπορει να με κανει να απαρνηθω το pro 3;

Το βρίσκω στα 1250 με 4gb ram, 180ssd, lte...

Κοίτα αν εξαιρέσουμε ότι λόγω Core M έχει ένα 15-20% πιο μειωμένες επιδόσεις από το Surface παρ όλα αυτά έχει και τα δικά του πλεονεκτήματα.

Πχ LTE

Wacom άρα συμβατότητα με το Note 4

Πληκτρολόγιο στο πακέτο

3 έτη εγγύηση.

Αθόρυβο χωρίς fan.

 

Πάνω κάτω ισάξιες προτάσεις είναι θα έλεγα,κλασικα η Helix σειρά είναι από τις πιο ποιοτικές της Lenovo,πιστεύω θα σε καλύψει

Αλλά δεν παύει να είναι τσιμπημένη η τιμή του θα έλεγα.

 

Εγώ προσωπικά μένω στα αυγά μου:p

 

Εδώ review αν και με τον πιο ισχυρό Core M

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Helix-2-Tablet-Review.136241.0.html

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Με χαλάσε η μέτρια ποιότητα κατασκευής που αναφέρεται στο review... Είμαι υπό σκέψεις.. Με βλέπω και μένα να κάθομαι στα αυγά μου..
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Με χαλάσε η μέτρια ποιότητα κατασκευής που αναφέρεται στο review... Είμαι υπό σκέψεις.. Με βλέπω και μένα να κάθομαι στα αυγά μου..

 

Νομίζω η πιο σωστή σκέψη.

Και Χριστούγεννα χτυπάμε το Pro 4 εφόσον βέβαια η MS το εξοπλίσει με Skylake αυστηρά,αλλιως καθόμαστε στα αυγά μας παραπάνω διάστημα.

Να έχει κι κάποιο νόημα η αναβάθμιση.

 

Εντωμεταξύ το Vaio brand ετοιμάζεται να ανοίξει τα φτερά του και εκτός Ιαπωνίας με το νέο υβριδικό δημιούργημα.

 

VAIO Z Canvas hits Japan, coming to the US this fall

 

http://liliputing.com/2015/05/vaio-z-canvas-hits-japan-coming-to-the-us-this-fall.html

Βέβαια σε σε τιμές 2000 δολάρια δεν έχει καμιά τύχη αν και στα specs θερίζει!!

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Dell Inspiron 13-7348 Convertible Review

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Inspiron-13-7348-Convertible-Review.141719.0.html

 

 

Pro

 

+ Good build quality

 

+ Bright IPS display

 

+ Touchscreen with 360° hinge

 

+ Good system performance with fast SSD

 

+ Easy to maintain

 

+ Passive stylus integrated

 

 

Cons

 

- Loud fan

 

- Throttling under load

 

- Average input devices

 

- Limited usability outdo

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Dell/Inspiron_13-7348/DellInspiron7348_flach.jpg

 

 

Verdict

 

Dell's Inspiron 13-7348 is an elegant convertible that can convince us in many areas. The performance is very good thanks to the powerful Core i7 processor and the fast SSD, the display convinces with a high luminance as well as wide viewing angles and the battery runtimes are decent as well. This means the manufacturer could improve two issues of the predecessor. You still have to live with the improvable input devices; the ClickPad in particular cannot inspire us. The fan is, unfortunately, also louder compared to the old model and can actually be disturbing in quiet environments.

 

Dell currently only offers three configurations; if you want an SSD ex-works you will also have to pay the additional price for the Core i7 CPU. The SSD (2.5-inch) can, however, easily be replaced, so we would recommend the configuration with a Core i5 processor and an upgrade of the hard drive after purchase.

 

Besides the longer battery runtime, the Lenovo Yoga 3 14 has better input devices and is therefore a good choice for frequent writers, but the display is, unfortunately, worse. Acer's Aspire R13 is, despite the slower processor, the slightly better overall package with longer battery runtimes and the better display.

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Νομίζω η πιο σωστή σκέψη.

Και Χριστούγεννα χτυπάμε το Pro 4 εφόσον βέβαια η MS το εξοπλίσει με Skylake αυστηρά,αλλιως καθόμαστε στα αυγά μας παραπάνω διάστημα.

Να έχει κι κάποιο νόημα η αναβάθμιση.

 

Εντωμεταξύ το Vaio brand ετοιμάζεται να ανοίξει τα φτερά του και εκτός Ιαπωνίας με το νέο υβριδικό δημιούργημα.

 

VAIO Z Canvas hits Japan, coming to the US this fall

 

http://liliputing.com/2015/05/vaio-z-canvas-hits-japan-coming-to-the-us-this-fall.html

Βέβαια σε σε τιμές 2000 δολάρια δεν έχει καμιά τύχη αν και στα specs θερίζει!!

 

Αλεξ τελικά χτυπήθηκε. Ο λόγος;

4g, ο fanless επεξεργαστής, το κορυφαίο ultrabook pro keyboard, η μπαταρια και στο πληκτρολόγιο, ο wacom digitizer που τον προτιμώ, οι έξτρα θύρες στο keyboard, τα τρία χρόνια εγγύηση

Για να δούμε...

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Να τα μας και η Lenovo έρχεται με φόρα και Cherry Trail x5/7 under the hood και refresh το ThinkPad 10

Καιρός ήταν κι οι άλλοι OEM να φρεσκαρουν τα μοντέλα τους.

Αν και ένα δίμηνο με τρίμηνο θα πάρει έως βγει στην αγορά(κλασικη Lenovo)

Lenovo’s new ThinkPad 10 tablet powered by Intel Atom Cherry Trail chips

http://liliputing.com/2015/05/lenovos-new-thinkpad-10-tablet-powered-by-intel-atom-cherry-trail-chips.html

 

Like other members of the ThinkPad family, this tablet is aimed at business customers, but it should be available for anyone willing to pay a premium price for a tablet designed for the enterprise market.

 

Optional features included 3G or 4G cellular data, dTPM encryption, a smart card reader or fingerprint scanner, and optional anti-glare screen.

 

Lenovo will offer a range of optional accessories including a $110 Folio Keyboard, a $119 Ultrabook keyboard, a $129 tablet dock, and a $40 ThinkPad Pen Pro

 

There’s also a $45 QuickShot Cover, which lets you fire up the camera just by folding down a flap over the lens.

 

The new Lenovo Thinkpad 10 supports 802.11ac WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, and has micro HDMI, microSD, and USB 3.0 ports, a 32 Wh battery for up to 10 hours of run time, and 5MP rear and 1.2MP front cameras. The tablet measures 10.1″ x 7″ x 0.35″ and weighs about 1.4 pounds.

 

http://cdn.liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/thinkpad-10-new.jpg

 

Αλεξ τελικά χτυπήθηκε. Ο λόγος;

4g, ο fanless επεξεργαστής, το κορυφαίο ultrabook pro keyboard, η μπαταρια και στο πληκτρολόγιο, ο wacom digitizer που τον προτιμώ, οι έξτρα θύρες στο keyboard, τα τρία χρόνια εγγύηση

Για να δούμε...

Άντε με το καλό

Περιμένουμε συγκριτικό.

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Fun Tip: USB 3.0 Magic Hub (Transfer files from PC to PC, Mac, and Android!)

 

[3-in-1] Inateck 3-Port USB 3.0 Hub with Magic Port Transfer Files from PC to PC, PC to Mac, Mac to PC and PC to OTG Devices, Driver-free Dual System With Keyboard and Mouse Switch Function

Cross platforms transfer files from PC to PC, PC to Mac, Mac to PC and PC to OTG devices, transfer date between Windows, Mac and Android without the use of backup devices.

• Switch keyboard & mouse and share chipboard between computers, OTG tablets and smartphones. No installation of drivers required, plug and play

• Save syncing time with USB3.0 transfer rates up to 5Gbps, backward compatible with USB 2.0 and USB 1.0

• Gold plated USB interface on the frontal 3 USB 3.0 ports and the USB 3.0 connector for long-term use. Convenient to use mouse, keyboards, speakers and other USB devices simultaneously.

• Package contents: Inateck HB4009 USB 3.0 3-port hub with usb 2.0 Magic port, 120cm USB 2.0 cable, OTG adapter, instruction manual.

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Να τα μας και η Lenovo έρχεται με φόρα και Cherry Trail x5/7 under the hood και refresh το ThinkPad 10

Καιρός ήταν κι οι άλλοι OEM να φρεσκαρουν τα μοντέλα τους.

Αν και ένα δίμηνο με τρίμηνο θα πάρει έως βγει στην αγορά(κλασικη Lenovo)

Lenovo’s new ThinkPad 10 tablet powered by Intel Atom Cherry Trail chips

http://liliputing.com/2015/05/lenovos-new-thinkpad-10-tablet-powered-by-intel-atom-cherry-trail-chips.html

 

Like other members of the ThinkPad family, this tablet is aimed at business customers, but it should be available for anyone willing to pay a premium price for a tablet designed for the enterprise market.

 

Optional features included 3G or 4G cellular data, dTPM encryption, a smart card reader or fingerprint scanner, and optional anti-glare screen.

 

Lenovo will offer a range of optional accessories including a $110 Folio Keyboard, a $119 Ultrabook keyboard, a $129 tablet dock, and a $40 ThinkPad Pen Pro

 

There’s also a $45 QuickShot Cover, which lets you fire up the camera just by folding down a flap over the lens.

 

The new Lenovo Thinkpad 10 supports 802.11ac WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, and has micro HDMI, microSD, and USB 3.0 ports, a 32 Wh battery for up to 10 hours of run time, and 5MP rear and 1.2MP front cameras. The tablet measures 10.1″ x 7″ x 0.35″ and weighs about 1.4 pounds.

 

http://cdn.liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/thinkpad-10-new.jpg

 

Άντε με το καλό

Περιμένουμε συγκριτικό.

 

Πολύ καλό. Ελπίζω στη lenovo να βρω την εναλλακτική σοβαρή εταιρία που θέλω. Η σειρά thinkpad πάντα με... Συγκινουσε...

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Ενόψει Computex 2015 όλοι οι κατασκευαστές ζεσταίνουν τις μηχανές τους και ετοιμάζονται για γενικό και μαζικο lifting των μοντέλων τους με τους νέους mobile επεξεργαστές της Intel.

Και η Acer χορεύει στους ρυθμούς των x5/7 Cherry Trail:p

Acer Aspire Switch 10 2-in-1 tablet with Atom x5 coming this year

http://liliputing.com/2015/05/acer-aspire-switch-10-2-in-1-tablet-with-atom-x5-coming-this-year.

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Microsoft Selects Dolby Audio for Windows 10

Dolby Laboratories, Inc. and Microsoft Corporation announced today that Dolby Audio is selected to be a part of the Microsoft Windows 10 operating system and will be natively supported by the new Microsoft Edge browser for the playback of web-based content as well as accessible by third-party Windows Store apps. Users of Microsoft Windows 10 PCs and tablets will enjoy Dolby quality audio experiences through Windows entertainment apps and through Microsoft Edge.

 

Dolby Audio (supporting Dolby Digital Plus) will be available in x86 Windows 10 PCs and tablets for playback of movies, TV shows, and videos with crisp, clear dialogue and greater detail of sounds. Windows 7 and 8 users may upgrade to Windows 10 for free and continue to experience Dolby quality audio consistently across headphones, built-in PC and tablet speakers, or connected home theater systems. Microsoft Edge will be the first browser to leverage the Dolby Digital Plus decoder on the Windows 10 operating system, enabling online content providers to enrich the entertainment experiences of millions of Internet users globally with Dolby Audio.

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Μετα την Lenovo και την Acer και η Asus στην Computex 2015 στην επίσημη πρωτη ημερα της έκθεσης φρεσκάρει την σειρα Transformer Book με τους νεους επεξεργαστες.

Asus’ new Transformer Book comes with Windows 10, USB Type-C, and 14 hours of battery life

http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/1/8695983/asus-transformer-book-t100ha-announced-specs-release-date

 

 

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Καταιγισμό προτάσεων από τους OEM στην Computex 2015 με Cherry Trail under the hood

Closer look at Acer Aspire Switch 10 V Cherry Trail 2-in-1 tablet

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/closer-look-at-acer-aspire-switch-10-v-cherry-trail-2-in-1-tablet.html

 

http://cdn.liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/switch-10-v-680x383.jpg

 

The new Acer Aspire Switch 10 V is a 2-in-1 Windows tablet with a detachable keyboard base. It looks a lot like earlier Switch 10 models, but the new version has a few major improvements, including:

•10.1 inch, 1920 x 1200 pixel display

•Intel Atom X5-8300 Cherry Trail processor

•A USB 3.0 port on the keyboard dock

 

The demo unit spotted by Mobile Geeks features 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage, but it’s possible Acer will offer models with more memory and storage for higher prices.

 

Other features include a micro USB port, micro HDMI port, headset jack, and microSD card slot on the side of the tablet itself. There are front-facing stereo speakers, and front and rear cameras.

 

Unlike some other tablets on display at Computex this week, the Acer Aspire Switch 10 V does not have a USB-C connector.

 

 

HP updates Pavilion x2 10 inch 2-in-1 with Cherry Trail

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/hp-updates-pavilion-x2-10-inch-2-in-1-with-cherry-trail.html

 

The tablet looks a lot like last year’s model, but the keyboard has been improved. Instead of a keyboard case, the 2015 model comes with a keyboard dock which has a sturdy base, which should make it easier to use the 2-in-1 device like a laptop when it’s actually sitting on your lap. The dock has a magnetic docking mechanism

 

Mobile Geeks notes that the keyboard is very thin and has no ports. But it helps keep the weight of the entire setup low: the tablet and keyboard have a combined weight of about 1.8 pounds.

 

The new tablet is powered by an Intel Atom x7 processor and the demo unit features 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage. HP says the tablet should get up to 12 hours of battery life.

 

Other features include a USB 3.0 port, a USB type C port, micro HDMI port, and a microSD card reader. There are stereo speakers and dual microphones.

 

The USB-C port can be used for data transfer, but it’s also the tablet’s charging port.

 

hp-pavilion-x2-10_2015-680x473.jpg

 

Και με Braswell under the hood ενώ αναμένεται σήμερα επιπλέον παρουσιάσεις από HP

Asus Transformer Book Flip TP200: Braswell-powered convertible

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/asus-transformer-book-flip-tp200-braswell-powered-convertible.

 

The laptop features an 11.6 inch, 1366 x 768 pixel glossy IPS touchscreen display, an Intel Pentium N3700 Braswell processor, and a relatively compact design: it measures about 0.73 inches thick and weighs about 2.65 pounds.

 

It also has a fanless design, thanks in part to the low-power 6 watt processor which doesn’t generate much heat.

 

 

The Transformer Book Flip TP200 will be available with up to 4GB of RAM and 128GB of solid state storage, but entry-level models will have just 2GB and 32GB, respectively.

 

Around the sides of the laptop you’ll find a USB 3.0 port, a USB 2.0 port, and a USB-C connector, as well as a separate charging port. There are power and volume buttons on the side of the laptop, allowing you to press those buttons even when you’re holding the computer in tablet mode. There’s also a microSD card reader and micro HDMI port.

 

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Lenovo Yoga 3 11 Convertible Review

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Yoga-3-11-Convertible-Review.143751.0.

 

 

Pro

 

+ Light and sturdy chassis

 

+ IPS display with good colors and viewing angles

 

+ Long battery runtimes

 

+ Good display brightness

 

+ Silent

 

+ Three full-size USB ports & HDMI

 

+ Reasonable pricing

 

+ Usable performance for Windows

 

+ Easy maintenance

 

 

Cons

 

- Weak feedback of the mechanical input devices

 

- Screen bleeding when you use it as a tab

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Lenovo/Yoga_3_11_80J8001WGE/Len_Yoga3_11_25.jpg

 

Verdict

 

The Lenovo Yoga 3 11 makes many things right, but it cannot convince us completely in the end. However, this is the case for the majority of devices. Positive aspects of the Yoga 3 are the compact and light chassis, which does not create any noise in operation. The ports are convenient with three USB ports and Micro-HDMI, and the battery runtime of 7:23 hours is even very good. It is possible to maintain the Yoga 11, you only require a small Torx screwdriver. The IPS display creates decent colors and has wide viewing angles, but the problems actually start here.

 

Pressure on the edges will result in screen bleeding, other issues are the inconvenient feedback of the mechanical input devices as well as the weak camera. The performance is not sufficient for gaming, but this will hardly be a problem for potential buyers. A small drawback is still the pretty quick throttling of the processor and graphics Boost.

 

 

All in all, the Lenovo Yoga 3 is a comparatively inexpensive Core M convertible that will be useful at home or on the road.

 

 

If you need a more productive device, you should have a closer look at the Acer Switch 12. The multi-mode device can be used in many situations, and the Laptop mode is even one of the best modes. Another alternative for mobile workaholics is the Dell Venue 11 Pro 7140, but the keyboard is not much better, either

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Μερικες πληροφοριες για την επερχομενη αναβαθμηση στα 10:

Here's the list of what's being taken away with the Windows 10 upgrade. Many of the items on this list will affect Windows 7 owners only

 

-If you have Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 8 Pro with Media Center, or Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center and you install Windows 10, Windows Media Center will be removed.

-Watching DVDs requires separate playback software

-Windows 7 desktop gadgets will be removed as part of installing Windows 10.

-Windows 10 Home users will have updates from Windows Update automatically available. Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise users will have the ability to defer updates.

-Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the "Microsoft Solitaire Collection" and "Microsoft Minesweeper."

-If you have a USB floppy drive, you will need to download the latest driver from Windows Update or from the manufacturer's website.

-If you have Windows Live Essentials installed on your system, the OneDrive application is removed and replaced with the inbox version of OneDrive.

http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-will-remove-some-features-and-apps-upgrading-windows-7-and-windows-81

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Μερικες πληροφοριες για την επερχομενη αναβαθμηση στα 10:

 

http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-will-remove-some-features-and-apps-upgrading-windows-7-and-windows-81

Εδώ θα χάσουμε άλλα πιο ουσιώδη κυρίως σε tablet/touch UI,τα παραπάνω είναι πταίσμα θα έλεγα.

Πάλι θα περιμένουμε 1 χρόνο έως βγει το επόμενο μεγάλο update μπας και η MS βάλει νερό στο κρασί της και κάνει πιο touch/tablet optimized τα 10αρια.

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Εδώ θα χάσουμε άλλα πιο ουσιώδη κυρίως σε tablet/touch UI,τα παραπάνω είναι πταίσμα θα έλεγα.

Πάλι θα περιμένουμε 1 χρόνο έως βγει το επόμενο μεγάλο update μπας και η MS βάλει νερό στο κρασί της και κάνει πιο touch/tablet optimized τα 10αρια.

H επομενη μεγαλη αναβαθμιση,κατα 90% θα ειναι αφιερωμενη στα tablets.Η πρωτη ειναι για να μαζεψει τους "ιδιοτροπους" hardcore desktopαδες!

 

Εγω καλου κακου θα φυλαξω την μια αδεια των windows 8 pro with WMC,μιας και χωρις αυτη μπορω να αναβαθμισω παλι ολα μου τα μηχανηματα σε Windows 10,μηπως την χρειαστω,ειτε για dual boot ειτε σε κανενα media pc για την tv,αν θα φτιαξω πιο μετα!:rolleyes:

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Cube i7 Stylus tablet features Core M CPU, Wacom digitizer

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/cube-i7-stylus-tablet-features-core-m-cpu-wacom-digitizer.html

 

The Cube i7 Stylus features a 1920 x 1080 pixel IPS display using IGZO technology, a Core M-5Y10C processor, 4GB of RAM, 64GB of solid state stroage, 802.11b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth, and 4G LTE.

 

There are HDMI and micro USB ports, a microSD card slot, and front and rear cameras. The tablet has a 9,000 mAh battery.

 

Cngadget says the tablet will be available in China starting June 18th for about $320. But that price doesn’t include the Wacom pen or optional keyboard dock.

 

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HP Spectre 13 x360 Convertible Review

http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Spectre-13-x360-Convertible-Review.144228.0.html

 

 

Pro

 

+ two practical configurations available

 

+ robust and very attractive unibody chassis

 

+ light

 

+ flawless build quality

 

+ great aluminum surfaces, sophisticated appearance

 

+ differnt modes like tablet thanks to the 360 degrees hinge

 

+ good port selection for this size

 

+ Mini-DisplayPort

 

+ Ethernet adaptor provided

 

+ ergonomic port layout

 

+ dual-band Gigabit WLAN

 

+ case can easily be opened (bottom cover, screwed)

 

+ warranty with Pick-up & Return

 

+ very good keyboard

 

+ useful HP Control Zone (Clickpad)

 

+ bright QHD IPS display with rich colors

 

+ powerful enough for Office and more

 

+ overall fast SSD (with some drawbacks)

 

+ quiet fan and keyboard

 

+ very long battery runtimes

 

 

Cons

 

- Lid bounces heavily and for a long time during movements ...

 

- ... and cannot be opened with one hand

 

- Ethernet adaptor only 10/100 Mbps

 

- no maintenance hatch

 

- keyboard illumination cannot be dimmed and is slightly uneven

 

- black value too high, which affects the contrast

 

- glossy display surface, can be a problem outdoors

 

- Turbo utilization not perfect

 

- throttling under unrealistic sustained load

 

- HD5500 hardly powerful enough for current 3D games

 

- miserable speakers

 

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σε κινέζικο ταμπλετ από κινεζομαγαζο με Windows 8.1

θα έρθει η ειδοποίηση για τα δεκαρια;η επειδή είναι καμία πειραγμενη ρομ από το μαγαζί δεν θα γίνει η αναβάθμιση;

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σε κινέζικο ταμπλετ από κινεζομαγαζο με Windows 8.1

θα έρθει η ειδοποίηση για τα δεκαρια;η επειδή είναι καμία πειραγμενη ρομ από το μαγαζί δεν θα γίνει η αναβάθμιση;

Τα κινεζικα εχουν και αυτα κανονικες αδειες του λογισμικου και θα παρουν κανονικα το upgrade.

Απλα για ειδοποιηση πρεπει να σου ερθει ενα συγκεκριμενο update για να στην εμφανηση.Εχε ενημερομενο το λογισμικο και σε καποια στιγμη θα σου ερθει.

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