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kamia foto den pezei re si superfot na doume?an kai den einai eukolo na breis thn sigekrimenh alla leme mhpws :) Pantws Brutus an 8es na deis mounta grafika des to full spectrum warrior pou eipe o sodan ;)Oso gia to morrowind re pedia exei milame sta 5 metra omixlh pou lei o logos gia na mporesei na peksei sto xbox..Oso gia ta ellinika den ginete to pliktrologio mou den exei ellinikous xaraktires kai kanw 10 xronia na grapsw mia leksi.

Xe xe bre afou den exete ps2 ti na kserete k eseis :p o monaxos superfot exei kai ta 2 ;) auto omws den to koitate e? :) Fysika 8a pareis ps3 mia kai opws deixnei to pragma 8a einai poli killer mhxanhma!!!

em den nomizw na exei twra auto pou 8a exw egw ;) mia kai auto pou 8a exw 8a einai polu kalutero :p ta efe exei mono kai ta shaders alla sou loipoun ta basika gia mena toulaxistwn,fysika akoma den fenete polu alla se ligaki me ta nea games pou olo kai pio polu ekmetaleuonte to ps2 8a deis pws 8a kanei bam,Brutus mhn ksanaleme re si ta idia pali eipame tous logous pou egw leo msg3 ktlp polu pio panw otan eixa anaferei y to xbox einai kalutero se genikes grames pros to parwn,An kai akoma kai to parwn siga siga alazei :p Btw eseis elpizate na eixate ena fable alla meinate me thn elpida giati mallon patatia mou fenete apo grafika y arage? mhpws einai oti den mporei i consola leo egw twra :whistle: Kai mhn mou peite pali bgenoun ta doom 3 ktlp giati to oti bgenoun tipota den lei to PWS bgenoun lei polla ;)

Mwre se ligaki 8a exei pio polu plaka 8a gelasete me thn psyxh sas otan er8ei h wra lolEks alou den exei na deite kai tipota an DEN 8elete na deite :) Kala re sy sodan plaka mou kaneis? les kai den exw dei to halo kai ti kanei kai ti oxi: whistle: telos pantwn auto,Kai den sou leo gia allo game giati den exw xbox na ta dw katse na paw kamia fora sto brutus na dw ta games kai ta leme meta ;)

Sodan eseis 8a xortasete me ta efe kai ta shaders tou halo se ena peribalon pou ka8e allo para realistiko einai ,Enw egw ap thn allh den 8a exw ta super efe alla 8a exw ena peribalon polu realistiko kai ali8ofanes(oso einai dynaton),Twra den kserw alei8eia ti 8a protimouse o perisoteros kosmos egw pantws kserw ti prwtimo!!! Brutus,les na mhn h8elan na ftiaksoun kalutero kai pio omorfo peribalon an mporousan?Am den epiase prin sta post mou pou sou eipa ta efe DEN erxonte free ;)

thn opoia foto pou postares den deixnh kai olas loll kai pies einai itreles analuseis h mhpws nomizeis oti an anebaseis thn analush ta frames 8a parameinoun 30 den to nomizw auto..gia mena to 60 simenei oti to mhxnhma exi dynamh mesa tou enw to 30..kai 20 8a ginei kai isws kai parakatw otan skourinoun ta pragmata me polla sprites sthn o80nh ;)PIsteuo oti to kserete eidi apo to halo 1 e?Oso gia to msg3 makari na to bgaloun gia na deite thn diafora tote ;) alla kai tote kati 8a breite na dikaiogi8eite pali :o

nai enw tu halo as poume esto kai auto pou deixnh den exei texnasmata e? Kai ektos apo ta shaders kai ta efe o kosmos tou einai san ena aperanto poligino teleios tetragwnismenos sto sinolo tou eidika otan deixnh eksoteriko peribalon:whistle: ap tis eikones pou ws twra yparxoun ;) Twra to allo asteio pios sou eipe oti to ps2 den kanei antialising?Den kanei hardware antial alla auto den simenei oti den mporei ka8olou!!!

kala na sou pw as tolmisoun na bgaloun to Mgs3 sto xbox kai 8a deis pws 8a gelasei kai to pardalo katsiki ;) Oso gia to edit gia auto den yparxei? gia na pros8eteis an ksexaseis kati :whistle:XExe eks alou an deis kai monos sou milas mono panta gia ta efe giati apo periplokotita peribalontos kai frames to ps2 den pianete,8a to deis otan er8ei h wra sto msg3 an pote to bgaloun,kai isws sto killzone :D Kai mhn mou peis oti to halo 1-2 exei kamia sxeh me to periploko kai kalosxediasmeno PERINALON tou killzone giati 8a pe8anw ap ta gelia :o gia sena poliploko peribalon simenei ta textures eno gia mena simenei polla dentra pollh blastisi ktlp

Mwre egw 8elw na bgei na deis pws 8a bgei!!!Makari na to bgaloun alla den to nomizw

Em den kserw alla 8a 8ela gia na deis ti 8a pa8ete meta :p otan den einai idio to game se grafika ;) Gia pio 1 dento re si mou milas to topio to sigekrimeno exei isa me 15 dentra ;) gia na dw 15 dentra sto xbox mazi me efe na doume,to polu pou bazoun einai kana 2 ante 3 den 8umame parapanw na eixe pote to halo,kai oute kai to 2 apo oti blepw,Twra oso afora ta xrwmata auto einai ka8ara epilogi tous den exei na kanei me mounta i oxi les na mhn exie to ps2 pio anoixta xrwmata :p Ta xrwmata auta einai teriasta se mia zougla gia na dimiourgi8ei atmosfera,ti atmosfera 8a eixe me xrwmata zwntana,kai me topio kseka8aro,8a xanotan h mageia tou game..Simasia exei 1 oti to ena game exei polu plousio kosmo eno to alla ektos apo efe kai pio megala textures o kosmos tou einai panftwxos,fisika einai epilogi sou na s aresei auto alla egw protimo to allo ;) Xwria oti to 1 game trexei me 60fps kai to allo me 30 ;) Giati akoma kai merika slowdowns na exw egw sta frames apo 60 poso na paei? alla apo 30 an kopsei frames 8a kanei arketa (kospimata) otan to pareis 8a er8w gia na ta deis :p

Ma ti h8eles na einai se zougla briskese!! diladi 8es na pmou peis oti den prosekses oti to topio einai fobera sxediasmeno kai me megalo detail oso afora to enviroment?akoma kai stis teleutees pentaka8ares pou les tou halo 2,exei men ta megala textures alla to topio tou einai tromera ftoxo kai sthn teleutea des thn blastisi apo pisw poso flat einai ;) Diladi les na mhn mporousan na baloun alla xrwmata pio zontana?ta xrwmata einai etsi apla gia na einai ali8ofani kai na dimiourgi8ei mia atmosfera,ti na kanoun opws tou hallo pou exei kati xrwmata teleiws ksekarfota?katse na bgei to game kai meta blepoume ;)An einai na exw ena topio 8eoftwxo ti na ta kanw ta efe?Otan eipa adynamua twn polygonon enoo thn adynamia na deiskei peribalon plousio me polla as poume dentra i blastisi gia na to kanei pio ali8ofanh,auto enoo kai oxi oti den einai ka8ara ta grafika.Episeis kanei sto la8os gia mena na estiazeis mono sta textures kai na mhn koitas kai to sxhma tous einai sxedon teleiws flat,eidika i blastisi pisw sthn teleutea eikona.As poume san 1 poligono skepasmeno apo ena texture ena flat pragma,se anti8esh me tou ps2 pou einai polu detailed to sxhma tou akoma kai an exei mikroteris analuseis texture. des to metal gear solid to 3 pou einai diaforetikou typou game poso ka8ara einai ta xrwmata.Btw 8a 8ela polu na to dw kai se xbox ;)na dw poso kala 8a ta paei se ena enviroment toso apetitiko se frafika :o Oso gia ta ftwxa textures tou ps2 en einai kai toso ftwxa oso 8a 8elate ;) An ontws pio ftwxa apo xbox se apozimiwnei omws me thn dynamh tou na ftiaxnei peribalonta plousia kai oxw ftwxa opws tou halo me megalutera textures kai mia plastikotita sta grafika pou sas aresei.. http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/536/536086/imgs_2.html

nai isws 8a tan kalo na parei smia X800 ati an kai den 8a tn gemizei o epekserasths sigoura 8a sou dwsei omws 2 xronakia zwh sta games,enw h twrines den exoun kai para polu zwh sta kainouria ap oti blepw kai sta test zorizonte arketa..An mporeis kane ligaki ypomonh an exei ena systhma bale gia ligo thn karta apo ekei.

Thn exw thn consola ka8ws kai ta 2 shenmue ;) kai einai ap ta liga games pou exw mia kai den eixe polla rpg :( 8a 8ela na brw merika games pantws gia na mhn thn exw na ka8ete gmt opoios exei kai 8elei 8a to ektimousa.

Auto einai kai gia tous 2 kirious :) Sou fenete :) isws den to perasa swsta to mhnuma ok,Apla 8elw na pw oti an den katalabenete akoma kai me tosa stoixeia pou edwsa kai anti8etws me esas,den mou dwsate tipota ektos ap to klasiko einai kalutera sto xbox,Parolo pou eksigisa kai tous logus pou AKOMA polla games fenonte kalutera,eseis omws agnwhte oti kai na leo kai lete auto pou pisteuete pou 8elete na pisteuete?Meta apo tosa pou eipa loipon afou den 8elete na katalabete tous logous(h kai den sas noiazei)Den exw tipota allo na pw para na sinfonisw mazi sas,mia kai oti kai na pw den to lambanete ypopsi,parolo pou milaw me stoixeia,Pantws eirwnika den to pa,apla parto san rest my case pou lene mia kai den exw kati allo pia na pw gia na katalabete,afou dialegete na mhn :) Egw pantws protimo ta polla polygwna apo ta efe sxedon se oles tis periptwseis giati ta efe kai eidika ta shaders fenonte polu (plastika) kai dinoun mia pseftiki es8isi,isws to mono pou kapws m aresei einai i 8alasa,8a sas pw kati etsi gia na deite ti enoo (an kai auta einai opws eipame protimiseis). Deite to killizone kai deite pws xwris fanfares kai polla efe to game katafernei na deiksi ena polu omorfo sinolo kai eidika an deite thn blastisi sthn zougla,pou exei kai egw den krerw posa futa kai poso kala sxediasmena einai(kati pou ofeilete sta polygwna mia kai ena 40% parapanw den einai kai ligo!xwria pou ta games sto ps2 einai ola sxedon 60fps opws kai to killizone eno sto xbox einai 30fps opws to halo1-2) deite meta akoma kai tis oikones tou HALO2 pou fenonte entipwsakes men san 1h epafh me pola efe,alla ta xrwmata einai teleiws ksekarfota me ena eidos plastikopieiseis twn xaraktirwn kai me ena enviroment pou ka8e allo para pragmatiko moiazei,koitaxte tis oikones na deite (osoi 8elete..)poso pseftika fenonte ta grafika sto halo 2(pou kaluptoun kat emena thn adynamia twn polygwnwn me efe),Kai meta apofasiste eseis pio einai pio omorfo enfanisiaka,pantws emena m aresei to killizone esas isws to halo 2,8a para8esw loipwn to link na deite tis oikones..gia na katalabete kata thn gnwmh mou panta oti ta efe den kanoun kai toso kalo,oso ta poligwna.Px ena ftwxo peribalon as poume mia zougla,pou sto xbox exei 5 dentra kai arketa efe sths ekrikseis as poume ktlp,kai sto ps2 exei 10 dentra me oxi toso entuposiaka efe alla polu kalutera sxediamena grafika kai pio plousia blastish,opws kai fenete ka8ara sto killzone,peite mou eseis pou fenete pio (plousio) to game kai to enviroment tou,sta 5 me ta efe i sta 10 kai pio kalosxediamena?Opws sa eipa ta efe den erxomnte FREE,gia na mpoun ta efe koutsoureuoun ta polugwna,kai apo ta 10 pou px 8a edeixne 8a paei sta 6 as poume(ka8ara plasmatiko ok?)Fusika auta ta games twra den plisiazoun kan ta 14 h 10 ek poligwna,to killzone einai gyrw sta 4,500 kai to halo 2 polu ligotera ap oti fenete..Koitaxte apla ena eksoteriko enviroment tou halo 2 poso (ftwxo)deixnei enanti auto tou killzone,Twra an protimate ekeino apo to allo egw 8a mou epitrepsete na protimhsw to peribalon pou einai pio plousio se grafika. http://www.playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2295&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 PS pali egrapsa terastio mhnuma :o

Pedia sinfono se oti peite den mporw na antikrouso toso ysxira epixeirimata...Katse bre superfot akoma einai arxh :p esy pou exeis kai tis 2 consoles kai sigrineis exeis na mas peis polla se ligo kairo :rolleyes:

Loipwn pedia ana8ewro to Xbox einai ontws kalutero kai pio dynato mhxanhma kai pio ekseligmeno sxetika me to ps2 :) meta ta stoixeia pou mou dwsate den mporw para na sinfonisw kai etsi na pw oti esfala.

Ctony_a sygnwmh alla den kratieme na mhn to pw les oti s aresoun ta games me kinimatografiki plokh kai an katalaba kala typou RPG kai advent.Eixes opws eipes to ps2 pou einai ka8ara consola gia auta ta games kai piges kai pires xbox?Pou gia na deis ena game tetoiou typou prepei na kaneis tama?Ektos kai an katalaba la8os egw..

Poromenos eimai mono me thn alei8eia ;) sas eipa kati an dialegete na to agnoeite den ftew :) An loipon 8elete na eise swstoi anti na epimenete oti einai kalutero to xbox pragma pou den exei kamia apolutos bash texnologika kai edw einai kai to gelio diladi pws mia konsola parousiazete kaluteri eno den einai..telos pantwn,An to oti akoma deixnei kalutera(an kai polu 8a h8ela ena JAK 2 na bgei kai sto xbox na doume posa apidia pianei o sakos lol) sas ikanopoih auto einai ok,Alla mia kai i microsoft einai poniri den 8a bgalei ena game pou 8a xantakwni to mhxanhma tis gia na einai metro sigriseis me allh consola pio dynati xexe.Telos sas eipa kai kseka8arisa to giati ginete auto pioi einai oi logoi,Toulaxistwn peite ok to xbox mas aresei giati exei tis texnikes kai tis deixnei TWRA,alla oxi einai pio dynath consola giati auto einai pantelos la8os,kai ena super parami8i tis microsoft pou elege oti einai 3 fores pio dynato an 8umame kala,kai fisika to basize sto oti i dikia tis platiforma deixnei amesa oti einai na deiksei kai ospou na anaptix8ei i alli 8a perasei arketos kairos kai 8a exei doulepsei arketo kosmo me ta parami8ia tis,Em ela omws pou to paramu8i san ola ta paramu8ia kapote teleiwnei...Akou na deis den sas krinw giati thn protimisate apla bazw ta pragmata sthn 8esh tous oso afora thn pio dynati apo tis 2 consola.Sodan se pliroforo oti pio omorfa toulaxistwn gia mena fenonte ta grafika me perisotera polygwna para me megalutera textures opws les,pragma pou den eimai sigouros an ysxiei apoluta gia to ps2,8a to koitaksw auto ;) pisteuw oti exw analush ta panta sto megalo post mou kai ftanei gia na katalabei (opoios 8elei na katalabei) tous logous,Twra an den ton niazei einai ok emena omws me niazei opws kai sigoura 8a niazei kai kapoious alous :)

exw thn deuteri fournia ps2 30004 an 8umame kala mia kai den to exw edw authn thn stigmh kai pou i kefales opws lene htan pio eupa8eis apo t alla,Fantasou afou ta pezei se auto akoma kai 4x engrafi ti na leme twra...

ela re si thn 8elw re!!!An thn dinei thn 8elw gia to p900 mou lol

Egw ta exw teleiwsei edw kai para polu kairo kai ta 2 sto dreamcast,htan pragmatika super 8a 8ela na dw kai thn tainia pou bghke alla den eixa thn eukairia

Ctony_a ksereis ti pragmatika exei plaka? :) To na ysxirizese kati xwris epixeirimata auto gia mena exei polu plaka :D Opws episeis to na ysxirizese kati pou den exei sxesh me thn pragmatikotita kai auto exei plaka :o (toulaxistwn gia mena)kane ton kopo loipon na diabaseis oti 8a pw kai mia kai les oti les kalo 8a tan na mporeis kai na to stirikseis :) edw sas dinw paradeigmata kai epixeirimata kai eseis lete re den paei na lei oti 8elei autos egw 8a leo oti to X-box einai pio dynato giati etsi lene oloi kai giati trww ta foumara pou mou poulaei i ka8e microsoft i h ka8e SONY me specs pou ta grafei me opoion tropo thn boleuh :confused: Kai afou bgazei pio (kala) grafika einai kai pio dynato,am de omws :o 1on dynamh den simenei aparetita oti i konsola i pio dynath 8a deiksei kai ta kalutera grafika AMESA eidika otan einai pantelws agnosti platiforma,pou sas diskoleuei auto kai den to pianete?(h mhpws den 8elete na to piasete kai koitate alou, :confused: pragmatika den mporw na skeuto kati allo mia kai den mou fenete logiko)dynamh simenei otan i mia consola bgazei se game 14ek polygwna kai i allh mono 10 twra 8es esy na peis oti ta 10 einai pio dynata mono kai mono,epeidi exoun to atou tis gnwsths platiformas kai etsi bgazei anamenomena pio kala grafika?As bgalei tote to JAK 2 na ta sigrinoume na doume pou 8a ne pio kala ta grafika kai i kinhsh!!kai pou oxi.Twra na mou peis e kai ti me noiazei emena,egw ta blepw pio kala twra,auto me noiazei,ok auto na to sebasto alla ALLO dynamh kai allo ulopoihsi,To xbox einai mia platiforma pasignwsth ap ta pc kai gia auto to logo to ekane i microsoft eks alou,8a deiksh bam ola tou ta grafika,oso gia ta kalutera kai ta xeirotera pou elege o filos sodan,Otan file i consola den paei parapanw apo 10ek polygwna gia na sou deiksei ta efe kai ta shaders kai oti allo kaloudi 8a sou ta kopsei apo ekei,den erxonte FREE autes i texnikes,An einai toso mages kai sigouri oti h consola mporei kai einai dynath as ta kanoun auta se ena RPG san to FABLE as poume na baloun kai ta 10ek polygwna kai tis texnikes tautoxrona,kai oxi na bazoun texnikes se pexnidia kleistou typou,e einai polu fisiko na einai pio omorfa kai na ksegelane to mati ta grafika afou exoun ena balance (6ek as poume polygwna kai ta 4 ta xaramizoume gia texnikes pou 8a deiksoun thn psevdes8isi oti ta grafika beltio8ikan) as tolmisoun loipon na ta baloun ola auta se ena game baru opws ena RPG pou exei kosmo terastio kai megalo,elpizw na katalabenete ti enoo me auto.To ps2 einai pio dynato apodedeigmena afou mexri twra exei thn dynatotita na deixnh 4ek parapanw polugwna ap to Xbox,kai as einai mia platiforma pou eixe mono 4 xronia gia na thn ma8oun kai oxi ta polaplasia xronia pou exei i platiforma pc,8elete eseis na lete oti einai pio dynato e peite to simasia exei pia einai i ali8eia,kai den einai mia ali8eia pou thn leo egw epeidi to ebgala apo to myalo mou,edw milane oi ari8moi,to ps2 exei polu pswmi akoma gia na deiksei thn dynamh tou kai ta grafika tou,mporei na mhn kataferei na ta deiksi pote,edw den mporw na eimai sigouros einai ka8ara 8ema ton programatiston an den bare8oun na (psaksoun) to mhxanha,egw eipa,koitaxte to Jak 2 me ta pio pola polygwna ws twra se game tou ps2 ta 14ek kai koitaxte pws ta kinei me ti fluid kinisi kai elate na ta ksanapoume meta,na deite otan bgei thn formula tis polufony kai to killizone,na doume an exoun i oxi kaluterepsi ta graphics tou kai poso 8a kaluterepsoun akoma,(me to kalo).Sas eksigisa ton logo pou to xbox yperteri se grafika ap to ps2 kai sas leo 1 kai na to 8umi8eite otan er8ei i wra.8a er8ei o kairos logika pou auto 8a antistrafei,kai tote na sas dw egw ti 8a lete meta,Oxi oti 8a pezei kai tromero rolo mia kai 8a einai konta i nees consoles,alla gia mena pezei giati auta ta peri pio dynaths consolas,enw den einai i alh8eia mou thn dinoun kapws :o An exete ta epixeirimata sas kai einai SOBARA peite ta,den einai epixeirima twra sobaro na mou lete,a exei ws twra pio kala games se grafika otan i mia platiforma einai pasignwsth kai i allh pantelws agnwsth prin 4 xronia,diladi an den katalabenete kai auto ti na sas pw..Egw sas eipa yparxei game me 14ek poligwna to jak 2 sto ps2 kai to pio poluploko game sto xbox exei 10 auto simenei pio dynato gia sas? Prepei na katalabete oti edw den exoume na sigrinoume 2 kartes pc pou an kapoia deixnei pio kala grafika einai kai i kaluteri,edw sigrinoume dio teleiws anomoia pragmata me diaforetiki filosofia,kai diaforetika xronika diagramata ws pros thn paramoni tis ka8e platiformas ston xwro,kai opws einai fisiko h gnwstoteri platiforma 8a bgalei kai ta pio kala grafika AMESA enanti mias agnwsths,akoma kai an i 2 einai pio dynath ap thn 1,h 1h exei auto to abantaz.Anarwti8hte kai kati allo re pedia to PS2 einai mia full 128bit konsola enw to xbox den einai,einai axtarmas opws kai ta pcs arxizei apo 32 kai ftanei mexri 128,pws einai dynaton na einai pio dynath mia tetoia consola kai na mou thn lete k olas texnologika anwteri :D otan apo opou kai na to piaseis to ps2 yperteri se dynamh arxizontas apo thn CPU..Den yparxei allos logos ektos autou pou sas eipa pio panw kai mono gia auto kiriws yperteri to xbox pros to parwn(toulaxistwn se genikes grames ;)) Gia psaxtite ligaki kai mhn koitate ta pragmata epifaniaka kai mono!!!

Xexe egw ta exw kai ta 2 :p sto dreamcast ;)

E parto kai erxome egw :) loipon sas egataleipo twra wra gia fai kai douleia :)

Emena m aresoun pantws ta kinimatografika games kai genika oti dipote kinimatografiko game san ergo,Btw kante enan kopo na deite to Project zero 2 to game exei tetoio saspens pou se ka8ilonei to rimadi :o kai ta grafika tou einai super atmosferika gia to game. hey brute otan pareis to FABLE 8elw na er8o na to peksw :p