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Δεν μπορώ να 'γράψω' τίποτα στο Nero με το NEC 2500A μου.. Ενώ γράφει τα DVDs ΟΚ, στα CD μου πετάει could not perform fixation και 'καίει' τα TDK cdakia..

Έκανα αναβάθμιση στο firmware, έκανα update το Nero αλλά πάλι τίποτα :( Ξέρετε κανένα site για να δω μήπως το drive μου δεν υποστηρίζει τα συγκεκριμένα CDs?

 

Επισυνάπτω και το Logfile του Nero:

 

 

Windows XP 5.1

IA32

WinAspi: -

ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32 μμ

 

NT-SPTI used

Nero Version: 7.0.1.4

Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 4

 

Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A> Version: 1.0A - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.4

Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

Drive buffer : 2048kB

Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?

CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A >Version: 1.0A - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.4

Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

 

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===

DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6E040L0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On

CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DV-5800B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off

 

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===

_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A E: CDRom0

_NEC DV-5800B I: CDRom1

=======================

 

AutoRun : 1

Excluded drive IDs:

WriteBufferSize: 70254592 (0) Byte

ShowDrvBufStat : 0

BUFE : 0

Physical memory : 479MB (490996kB)

Free physical memory: 93MB (95664kB)

Memory in use : 80 %

Uncached PFiles: 0x0

Use Inquiry : 1

Global Bus Type: default (0)

Check supported media : Disabled (0)

 

13.2.2006

CD-ROM (ISO)

3:24:34 μμ #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411

Iso document burn settings

------------------------------------------

Determine maximum speed : FALSE

Simulate : FALSE

Write : TRUE

Finalize CD : TRUE

Multisession : FALSE

Burning mode : TAO

Mode : 1

ISO Level : 2 (Max. of 31 chars)

Character set : ISO 9660

Joliet : TRUE

Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE

Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE

Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

 

3:24:34 μμ #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525

ReadBuffer-Pipe got 68608KB of Memory

 

3:24:34 μμ #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124

Reader running

 

3:24:34 μμ #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113

Writer E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A running

 

3:24:34 μμ #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312

First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

 

3:24:34 μμ #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3342

Turn on Track-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

 

3:24:57 μμ #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279

Last possible write address on media: 359848 ( 79:59.73)

Last address to be written: 358219 ( 79:38.19)

 

3:24:57 μμ #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291

Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

 

3:24:57 μμ #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578

Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A

 

3:24:57 μμ #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458

>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<

=========================================

Insert the disc to write to.

(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: CD-R/RW.)

 

3:24:57 μμ #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847

Setup items (after recorder preparation)

0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()

2 indices, index0 (150) not provided

original disc pos #0 + 358220 (358220) = #358220/79:36.20

relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos

-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 358218 blocks [E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A]

--------------------------------------------------------------

 

3:24:57 μμ #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059

Prepare recorder [E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A] for write in TAO

DAO infos:

==========

MCN: ""

TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated

Tracks 1 to 1:

1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 733941760, ISRC ""

DAO layout:

===========

__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________

-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00

-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00

0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

358220 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

 

3:24:57 μμ #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1127

Removed 2 run-out blocks from end of track 1. Length: 358220 -> 358218.

 

3:24:57 μμ #14 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36

SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

 

3:24:57 μμ #15 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725

Caching of files started

 

3:24:57 μμ #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4176

Cache writing successful.

 

3:24:57 μμ #17 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725

Caching of files completed

 

3:24:57 μμ #18 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725

Burn process started at 32x (4.800 KB/s)

 

3:24:57 μμ #19 SPTI -1189 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323

E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1189)

Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)

Sense Code: 0x30

Sense Qual: 0x02

CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 40 00 00 00

Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 02

Buffer x048d3a00: Len x4000

 

3:24:57 μμ #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685

Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

 

3:28:11 μμ #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228

all writers idle, stopping conversion

 

3:28:12 μμ #22 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 16379

<_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A > start Close Session

 

3:28:42 μμ #23 SPTI -1135 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323

E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1135)

Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)

Sense Code: 0x0C

Sense Qual: 0x00

CDB Data: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 05 77 4C 0A 00 00 00 00 0C

 

3:28:42 μμ #24 CDR -1135 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308

Write error

E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A

 

3:28:42 μμ #25 TRANSFER -19 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308

Could not perform Fixation

 

3:28:42 μμ #26 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 16379

<_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A > start Close Session

 

3:29:15 μμ #27 SPTI -1135 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323

E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1135)

Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)

Sense Code: 0x0C

Sense Qual: 0x00

CDB Data: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 05 77 4C 0A 00 00 00 00 0C

 

3:29:15 μμ #28 CDR -1135 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308

Write error

E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A

 

3:29:15 μμ #29 TRANSFER -19 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308

Could not perform Fixation

 

3:29:16 μμ #30 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725

Burn process failed at 32x (4.800 KB/s)

 

 

Existing drivers:

File 'Drivers\InCDfs.SYS': Ver=5, 0, 0, 4, size=101760 bytes, created 14/10/2005 12:00:36 μμ (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)

File 'Drivers\InCDpass.SYS': Ver=5, 0, 0, 4, size=29440 bytes, created 14/10/2005 12:01:56 μμ (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)

File 'Drivers\InCDrec.SYS': Ver=5, 0, 0, 4, size=8704 bytes, created 14/10/2005 12:00:32 μμ (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)

 

Registry Keys:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

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Δεν μπορώ να 'γράψω' τίποτα στο Nero με το NEC 2500A μου.. Ενώ γράφει τα DVDs ΟΚ, στα CD μου πετάει could not perform fixation και 'καίει' τα TDK cdakia..

Έκανα αναβάθμιση στο firmware, έκανα update το Nero αλλά πάλι τίποτα :( Ξέρετε κανένα site για να δω μήπως το drive μου δεν υποστηρίζει τα συγκεκριμένα CDs?

 

Επισυνάπτω και το Logfile του Nero:

 

 

Windows XP 5.1

IA32

WinAspi: -

ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32 μμ

 

NT-SPTI used

Nero Version: 7.0.1.4

Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 4

 

Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A> Version: 1.0A - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.4

Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

Drive buffer : 2048kB

Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?

CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A >Version: 1.0A - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.4

Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

 

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===

DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6E040L0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On

CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DV-5800B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off

 

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===

_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A E: CDRom0

_NEC DV-5800B I: CDRom1

=======================

 

AutoRun : 1

Excluded drive IDs:

WriteBufferSize: 70254592 (0) Byte

ShowDrvBufStat : 0

BUFE : 0

Physical memory : 479MB (490996kB)

Free physical memory: 93MB (95664kB)

Memory in use : 80 %

Uncached PFiles: 0x0

Use Inquiry : 1

Global Bus Type: default (0)

Check supported media : Disabled (0)

 

13.2.2006

CD-ROM (ISO)

3:24:34 μμ #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411

Iso document burn settings

------------------------------------------

Determine maximum speed : FALSE

Simulate : FALSE

Write : TRUE

Finalize CD : TRUE

Multisession : FALSE

Burning mode : TAO

Mode : 1

ISO Level : 2 (Max. of 31 chars)

Character set : ISO 9660

Joliet : TRUE

Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE

Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE

Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

 

3:24:34 μμ #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525

ReadBuffer-Pipe got 68608KB of Memory

 

3:24:34 μμ #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124

Reader running

 

3:24:34 μμ #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113

Writer E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A running

 

3:24:34 μμ #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312

First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

 

3:24:34 μμ #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3342

Turn on Track-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

 

3:24:57 μμ #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279

Last possible write address on media: 359848 ( 79:59.73)

Last address to be written: 358219 ( 79:38.19)

 

3:24:57 μμ #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291

Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

 

3:24:57 μμ #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578

Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A

 

3:24:57 μμ #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458

>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<

=========================================

Insert the disc to write to.

(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: CD-R/RW.)

 

3:24:57 μμ #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847

Setup items (after recorder preparation)

0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()

2 indices, index0 (150) not provided

original disc pos #0 + 358220 (358220) = #358220/79:36.20

relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos

-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 358218 blocks [E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A]

--------------------------------------------------------------

 

3:24:57 μμ #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059

Prepare recorder [E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A] for write in TAO

DAO infos:

==========

MCN: ""

TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated

Tracks 1 to 1:

1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 733941760, ISRC ""

DAO layout:

===========

__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________

-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00

-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00

0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

358220 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

 

3:24:57 μμ #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1127

Removed 2 run-out blocks from end of track 1. Length: 358220 -> 358218.

 

3:24:57 μμ #14 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36

SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

 

3:24:57 μμ #15 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725

Caching of files started

 

3:24:57 μμ #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4176

Cache writing successful.

 

3:24:57 μμ #17 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725

Caching of files completed

 

3:24:57 μμ #18 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725

Burn process started at 32x (4.800 KB/s)

 

3:24:57 μμ #19 SPTI -1189 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323

E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1189)

Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)

Sense Code: 0x30

Sense Qual: 0x02

CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 40 00 00 00

Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 02

Buffer x048d3a00: Len x4000

 

3:24:57 μμ #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685

Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

 

3:28:11 μμ #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228

all writers idle, stopping conversion

 

3:28:12 μμ #22 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 16379

<_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A > start Close Session

 

3:28:42 μμ #23 SPTI -1135 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323

E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1135)

Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)

Sense Code: 0x0C

Sense Qual: 0x00

CDB Data: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 05 77 4C 0A 00 00 00 00 0C

 

3:28:42 μμ #24 CDR -1135 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308

Write error

E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A

 

3:28:42 μμ #25 TRANSFER -19 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308

Could not perform Fixation

 

3:28:42 μμ #26 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 16379

<_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A > start Close Session

 

3:29:15 μμ #27 SPTI -1135 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323

E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1135)

Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)

Sense Code: 0x0C

Sense Qual: 0x00

CDB Data: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 05 77 4C 0A 00 00 00 00 0C

 

3:29:15 μμ #28 CDR -1135 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308

Write error

E: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A

 

3:29:15 μμ #29 TRANSFER -19 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1308

Could not perform Fixation

 

3:29:16 μμ #30 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725

Burn process failed at 32x (4.800 KB/s)

 

 

Existing drivers:

File 'Drivers\InCDfs.SYS': Ver=5, 0, 0, 4, size=101760 bytes, created 14/10/2005 12:00:36 μμ (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)

File 'Drivers\InCDpass.SYS': Ver=5, 0, 0, 4, size=29440 bytes, created 14/10/2005 12:01:56 μμ (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)

File 'Drivers\InCDrec.SYS': Ver=5, 0, 0, 4, size=8704 bytes, created 14/10/2005 12:00:32 μμ (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)

 

Registry Keys:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

 

 

 

Κατι παρομοιο ειχε ενας γνωστος μου και αν θυμαμαι καλα ειχαμε αλλαξει δισκακια αλλα δεν λυσαμε το προβλημα γιατι ειχε προβλημα το leizer που διαβαζει τα cd και αναγκαστικα το στειλαμε για service λογω εγγυησης.....;)

"Δεν με πειράζει να πηγαίνω για δουλειά αλλά αυτή η 8ωρη αναμονή για να γυρίσω σπίτι με σκοτώνει!!!!!!!"

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Αυτή είναι η τελευταία μου ελπίδα, να δοκιμάσω άλλη εταιρεία σε άδεια CDs.. Με αυτά που αναφέρω, προτείνετε κάποια άλλη λύση?
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Prosopiki mou empeiria an sto ksanakanei me alla diskakia kateytheian piso opos einai kai an sou poun tpt pes oxi allagi den thelo oute service oute mentoles. Allagi!!!!!!!!!!!Emena etsi me koroideyan mexri pou perase i eggiysi ta eftyse entelos kai meta anagkastika na to allakso.
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Προς Θεού MHN το ψάχνεις αλλού και ταλαιπωρείσαι!!!! Το πρόβλημα είναι με την τελευταία version του Nero!!!! (7.0.1.4) Έχει συζητηθεί σε αρκετά forum το συγκεκριμένο πρόβλημα. Γρήγορα στην αμέσως προηγούμενη version (6.6.0.18) και θα δεις πως θα λυθούν όλα ως δια μαγείας!!! ;)
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Προς Θεού MHN το ψάχνεις αλλού και ταλαιπωρείσαι!!!! Το πρόβλημα είναι με την τελευταία version του Nero!!!! (7.0.1.4) Έχει συζητηθεί σε αρκετά forum το συγκεκριμένο πρόβλημα. Γρήγορα στην αμέσως προηγούμενη version (6.6.0.18) και θα δεις πως θα λυθούν όλα ως δια μαγείας!!! ;)

to problhma opws prohpeo o africa_twin einai to nero:mad: :mad: :mad: .......... moy ekane kai mena kati tetoia trela alla molhs ebala thn prohgoymenh ekdosh ola eytiaksan

 

 

P.S. pros africa_twin -- h mhxanh einai fetino modelo????? sorry gia to off topic

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Μπα όχι παιδιά.. Το 7 το έβαλα προχθές.. Τόσο καιρό έγραφα με το 6 και πάλι προβλήματα είχα..
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Πάρε ένα καθαριστικό για dvd/cd και βάλτο να κάνει ένα καθαρισμό στο nec, με αυτόν τον τρόπο θα κάνει έναν καθαρισμό στο Laser, μήπως και είναι εκεί το πρόβλημα.
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Μπα όχι παιδιά.. Το 7 το έβαλα προχθές.. Τόσο καιρό έγραφα με το 6 και πάλι προβλήματα είχα..

 

 

Καλημερα...Κοιταξε τοτε για αρχη να αλλαξεις CD μετα το καλωδιο IDE και αν δεν δεις αλλαγη τοτε θα σου προτεινα να το στειλεις για εγγυηση γιατι ισως να ισχυει αυτο που σου ειχα πει (σν δεις ποιο πανω) οτι ισως φταει το "ματι" (leizer) που διαβαζει η συσκευη σου...

 

Αυτο που ανεφερα ποιο πανω με το καλωδιο το ειχα και εγω ποιο παλια αλλα οχι μονο δεν μπορουσα να κανω εγγραφες αλλα που και που μου κολλουσε το μηχανημα

"Δεν με πειράζει να πηγαίνω για δουλειά αλλά αυτή η 8ωρη αναμονή για να γυρίσω σπίτι με σκοτώνει!!!!!!!"

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Pros theou mi valeis katharistiko. Xeirotera tha to kaneis para kalutera. Ektos kai an mporeis na to kathariseis mono sou. tpt allo. an deis oti den grafei ki alla diskakia piso kateutheian.einai krima na xaneis xrono.
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Pros theou mi valeis katharistiko. Xeirotera tha to kaneis para kalutera. Ektos kai an mporeis na to kathariseis mono sou. tpt allo. an deis oti den grafei ki alla diskakia piso kateutheian.einai krima na xaneis xrono.

Δεν μας εξηγείς για ποιον λόγο να μην βάλει καθαριστικό από την στιγμή που αρκετά παιδιά με αυτόν τον τρόπο έχουν βοηθηθεί.

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poly apla dioti ego evala dyo fores se dika mou kai tis dyo meta apo ligo kairo xalasan kai ta dyo kai otan epsaksa kai vrika enan sovaro ilektroniko pou iksere pente pragmata parapano kai elegkse kai ta dyo to proto pou me rotise an evala katharistiko cd kai tou eipa nai gi auto mou leei xalasan. kai mou proteine na min to ksanakano. Sygnomi file den thelo na meioso tin apopsi sou aplos katatheto ti diki mou empeiria.
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Γενικός κανόνας είναι ότι τα καθαριστικά κιτ που υπάρχουν για cd/dvd drives δεν τα βάζουμε σε cdr/dvdr.
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