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Couldn't agree more :up:

Efoson to dikaiwma sou prokalei apodedeigmeno provlima ugeias se kapoion allo, tote pavei na einai dikaiwma sou. Prosoxi: milaw gia kleistous koinoxristous xwrous kai mono. Ston idiwtiko xwro alla kai se opoiodipote anoixto dimosio kaneis oti 8eleis. Akrivws. Exeis Akrivws. Gia afto kai stous mikrous xwrous prepei na apagorevetai to kapnisma, alliws trwei o enas sti mapa ton kapno tou allou. Stous megaluterous xwrous prepei na uparxoun eidikoi xwroi se mia logiki analogia (oxi 90-10 oute uper tou enos oute uper tou allou). Pou stin Ellada den uparxoun pou8ena i uparxei ena trapezi se sunolo 100. To paradeigma fusika den eixe skopo na einai akrivis prosomoiwsi tis katastasis kapnistes-mi kapnistes, alla na sou dwsw na katalaveis oti den exoun oloi panta isa dikaiwmata, opws sunexws epanalamvanes. Elpizw twra na egina katanoitos. Fusika ola ta parapanw xwris kamia dia8esis antipara8esis se prosopiko epipedo. Antipara8esi idewn kai epixeirimatwn kanoume.

E as ti valoun meta tis 11 to vrady (opws eixan kanei kapote apo oti kserw kai opws eixan kanei kai me kapoio reality palia) opote na einai epilogi oswn mporoun na kanoun epiloges To paidi tou dimotikou den einai anagi na vlepei 8emata aftou tou i8ous. Kata ta alla den eipa tipota gia tous enilikes. As to vlepoun oso 8eloun. O ka8e enas mporei na aksiopoiei i na xalaei to xrono tou opws 8elei. Allos ton xalaei stin Tatiana, egw se kati allo axristo ktl ktl (kserw eixa pei off topic telos, alla eprepe afto me ta paidia na to diefkrinisw).

Egw gia plaka to eipa, alla esy mallon to ennoouses :) Diladi me anapantites 8a sunexisei i diamarturia ?? Etsi den 8a kataferoume pote tipota :(

Kai oxi opws gia paradeigma stin Ellada, pou den uparxoun xwroi gia mi kapnizontes. Swsta? Ta pragmata stin Ellada gia enan mi kapnisti einai xeirotera apo oti stin Agglia gia enan kanpisti. Se afto sumfwnw.

Pou akrivws de sas sevomaste? Sto oti den 8eloume i apolafsi sas na epireazei tin ugeia mas se dimosious xwrous toulaxiston? To aneptuksa kai se parapanw post to 8ema, perimenw tis apopseis twn kapnistwn.

Wraia, mporoume ka8e Paraskevi na kanoume anapantites mexri na paroun to minima. :rolleyes: Diladi pote, mias kai opws eipame oi anapantites den enoxloun kanenan.

File oxi mallon kai upopsies. Sigoura sou poulise foumara. To leei ka8ara sto site tou ECDL Kai sto diko sou frontistirio na pas pali mporei na sou poun oti na nai, ti tous empodizei. Pare kateftheian til tin EPY kai kateigile to gegonos.

Stous antres ipirkse mia kampuli. Afksi8ikan ta pososta kapnismatos kai siga siga arxisan pali na meiwnontai. Oi gunaikes arxisan to kapnisma mazika argotera apo tous antres (xronika) kata kapoies dekaeties. Ara kai sto stadio tis meiwsis tou posostou twn gunaikwn pou kapnizoun 8a mpoun argotera. Elpizw na ginomai katanoitos.

Akrivws, to dikaiwma mou stin ugeia safws kai den einai iso me to dikaiwma sou na mou steriseis tin ugeia. Einai anwtero to dikaiwma kapoiou stin ugeia apo to dikaiwma kapoiou tritou stin efxaristisi. Eimaste ki oi 2 se ena parko. Esy ka8esai isixos kai egw vgazw mia ntountouka kai ti vazw dipla sta aftia sou. Arxizw na fwnazw (etsi ti vriskw) me kinduno na sou prokalesw (makropro8esma) vlavi sto tumpano toy aftiou. Na simeiwsw oti to dikaiwma sou stin usixia einai iso me to dikaiwma mou na fwnazw me ti ntountouka mesa sta aftia sou. Poios prepei na fugei. Egw pou prokalw to provlima i esy? H mhpws prepei na stamatisw na fwnazw me ti ntountouka oso enoxlw tous allous? An apantises to parapanw, tote vrikes kai tin apantisi sou sto erwtima tou kapnismatos.

La8os post. Please delete. Go to the next one.

To proigoumeno mou post 8a se kalupsei elpizw kai pistevw kai se afto to 8ema. Allo to na sou epivalw na min kapniseis (ston koinoxristo panta xwro) kai allo na mou epivaleis me to zori na ginw pa8itikos kapnistis. Nomizw i diafora einai emfanis

Giatre, edw eisai la8os (ali8eia giati oloi oi giatroi kapnizoun??) Otan kapnizeis dipla mou se koinoxristo xwro de me eknevrizei. Apodedeogmena omws o kapnos sou prokalei vlavi stin ugeia mou. Etsi sou zitaw (kai to kratos me tous nomous) na min kapniseis. Diladi aplws sou zitaw na mi mou prokaleis vlavi . Ti akrivws se kanei na pisteveis oti afto einai ratsismos? H akoma kalutera eipes: Ti einai afto pou se kanei na pisteveis oti einai iso to dikaiwma pou exw na prostatepsw tin ugeia mou me to dikaiwma sou na kapniseis => ara na prokaleseis vlavi (makropro8esma kai a8roistika, esy kai oloi oi alloi) stin ugeia mou???

Sti via oxi, mono stin apoxavnosi kai sti m@l@kia. Stamataw to 8ema edw epeidi eimaste off topic, alla de mporw na vlepw ws paradeigma epityximenou atomou tin Tatiana. Kai malista oti tis tin peftoume mono kai mono gia afto to logo, ki oxi giati oi ekpompes tis einai trash. Eleos :mad: Gia ton Papakaliati na sumfwnisw oti sumfwna me ta kritiria tis epoxis einai "petyximenos" (tromara tou). Twra gia to epipedo aftwn twn kritiriwn as mi milisoume :whistle: Thumamai kapote pou legotan oti o Papakalia 8a epaize leei sto Beverly Hills Ti eixe ginei me afti tin istoria? radio arvula i eixe paei se kamia odission kai pire ton pouloglou?

Ma edw oi kapnistes einai ligoteroi apo tous mi kapnistes. Pou na deis twra pou psaxnw gia spiti kai polloi de dexontai na noikiasoun to spiti tous se kapnistes (pou de me apasxolei proswpika, mias kai den kapnizw). Pragma pou arxika se paraksenevei, alla an to kaloskefteis o idioktitis aplws prosexei tin periousia toy. An egw kapnizw meta apo ena xrono pou 8a fugw i murwdia 8a exei potisei toixous, kourtines kai moketes (pou einai tou spitiou) ara leei aplws "No smokers". Kalo?

H opoia (sumfwna panta me to parapanw site) prodia8esi eksartatai to an 8a ekdilw8ei apo tous diaforous risk factors. Apotelesma?Osoi exoun prodia8esi, kapnizontas afksanoun tis pi8anotites na pa8oun karkino. Kai fusika den einai mono o karkinos. Sigoura to na eispneies carbon monoxide (pws legetai sta Ellinika) de mporei na einai kalo gia tin ugeia. Oi erevnes pou les oti den uparxoun, otan 8a uparksoun (an uparskoun vevaia) 8a einai polu arga... Anyway o ka8enas einai eleftheros na kanei oti 8elei, arkei na min enoxlei tous allous. Ki epeidi den eimaste giatroi (egw diladi :p mias kai esy eisai psuxologos. Ok kserw oti den einai giatros o psuxologos alla tespa) afti i kouventa de 8a mas vgalei pou8ena. Afto pou me apasxolei perissotero den einai ti vlavi prokalei sta pneumonia tou (i allou) o ka8e kapnistis. Dika tou einai, as ta kanei oti 8elei. Me apasxoloun oi sunepeies pou exoun oi prakseis tou ka8e kapnisti se emena . Stin ugeia mou (kuriws) kai oi oikonomikes defterevontos. Btw, exete dei eseis kafeteries kai loipa alla meri na exoun ksexwristous xwrous gia kapnizontes kai kserwristous gia mi?

Ti diafora ti gnwrizw, alla opws eipa kai sto parapanw post, i diaxwristiki grammi anamesa sto "prokalw karkino" kai sto risk factor pou afksanei tis pi8anotites na prosvli8ei kapoios apo karkino kai einai leptes kai den apasxoloun to meso kapnisti/an8rwpo/politi. Afto pou me apasxolei einai i ugeia mou, diladi: 1) kapnizw: poies einai oi pi8anotites na pa8w karkino 2) den kapnizw, poies einai oi pi8anotites na min pa8w karkino. To an prokalei, epivarunei ktl as to psaksoun oi epistimones. Emena me endiaferei to apotelesma. Apo tous 1000 kapnistes pou pa8ainoun karkino, mipws ena megalo meros de 8a ekdilwne pote karkino an den kapnize? Afto einai pou exei simasia. Oso gia tin egurotita twn parapanw pou para8etw, den ti gnwrizw. Sto telos omws grafw kai tin pigi, pou einai to Cancer Research UK, to opoio gnwrizw oti sunergazetai kai me eksoxous epistimones. Kata ta alla den kserw ti "kapno foumarei" (vasika de foumarei kapno :p ).

Thanks Frantsesko. An kapoios exei doulepsei se cc megalis etairias as moirastei edw tis empeiries tou mazi mas. :)

Ennoeis afto alla ferneis ws paradeigma tin Tatianna? :wacko: :blink:

Afierwmeno gia sena to parakatw: Episis: Twra to an to kapnisma prokalei karkino i aplws sumvalei sti dimiourgia tou, einai pragmatika mia diakrisi pou de me endiaferei, as tin kanoun oi sxetikoi epistimones... H Nikotini DEN prokalei karkino, omws: Afta :) Gia to telos: Source

Fusika kai prepei. Atyxes paradeigma, i Tatiana de dexetai "epi8esi" epeidi einai petyximeni (siga tin epityxia) alla gia tis p@p@ries me tis opoies ka8etai kai asxoleitai :whistle:

Paidia min arpazeste den eipe kaneis oti oi kapnistes den plenontai i otidipote allo. Apla afti i murwdia tis tsigarilas stin anapnoi , eidika meta pou exei kapoios kapnisei, gia emas einai vrwma, pragma pou einai logiko na min antilamvaneste oi idioi ws kapnistes. Pws na to pw alliws, afto to fusiologiko gia esas, epeidi to exete suni8isei.

Mages, mia erwtisi, ki epeidi kserw oti uparxoun paidia edw mesa pou kseroun, opoios mporei as apantisei. Ta call centers twn etairiwn kinitis mipws pairnoyn foitites opws to 131/134 tou OTE? An nai, poia i diadikasia? Sunergazontai me eidika grafeia, to kanoun monoi tous? Gia part-time panta milaw. Den to 8elw gia mena, mias kai den eimai foititis pleon :cool: Opoios kserei as voi8isei. Efxaristw prokatavolika :) (sorry pou o titlos einai sta Agglika, alla 8ewrisa oti 8a einai asximo na fainetai sta greeklish :p )

Epeidi panta eixa tin periergeia, alla de vrika analoges plirofories sto site toy ECDL. Yparxei kai va8mos sto ECDL i aplws i to pernas i oxi? Kapou eixa rwtisei kai paliotera alla de 8umamai ka8olou...

Pesta xrusostome. Eidika ekei pou vlepeis gunaikes (kai antres) na kapnizoun dipla akrivws sta mwra toys, einai na pas na tous travikseis merika xastoukia. Oso gia ti vroma, dikio eis diploun. :whistle: